Tapped: Clinton's Intragender gap

[illinoisprogressive]

CLINTON'S INTRAGENDER GAP. Riffing off this poll and this piece by Dana, Matt asks why Clinton has such a huge majority among progressive women -- enough to make her a solid primary favorite -- which doesn't carry over among more conservative women. This is an important question, because if Clinton can't change this it could make her a suboptimal general election candidate leaving aside normative issues -- the progressive women that support Clinton are unlikely to vote Republican. My guess is that women with the strongest feminist commitments have the strongest stake in seeing a long-overdue woman as president, and will be particularly aware of (and place an especially high priority on) Clinton's record on gender issues, which are Clinton's strongest progressive credentials. But her (largely unmerited) reputation as a staunch liberal in general will make this less appealing to more moderate women. I'm not sure if the data will bear this out, but that's how I would try to make sense of the gap.

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped

[durrrty libby]

1. Intelligent women will swarm to vote for her in droves

[Alamom]

2. You are correct. eom

[Clark2008]

10. I'm intelligent and I'm not swarming to vote for her.

That statement was a bit overdramatic, don't you think?

[durrrty libby]

12. In this case......No, I don't think it is. But thanks for your concern

[Clark2008]

16. No concern - just a fact.

A lot of intelligent women aren't swarming to vote for her. I know tons.

If she's the nominee, I'll hold my nose and vote for her, but that's all I'll do. I'd hardly call that "swarming."

Personally, I think she's a rather bland candidate. I never said I hated her, but I do think your statement is a bit pretentious.

For the record, I don't have a primary candidate, so my opinion is pretty fair.

[durrrty libby]

21. ."That statement was a bit overdramatic, don't you think?"

Looks like a question to me. Asked and answered.

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[durrrty libby]

5. Well I have 2 college degrees and an IQ over 135

Once again your foolish assumptions are laughable

[Clark2008]

11. Both of you made foolish assumptions, if you ask me.

I have a college degree and an IQ of 143 and I'm not swarming to vote for her OR Obama.

:shrug:

[durrrty libby]

13. You may not be, but millions will. Sorry, if you somehow got

the idea that this was about you in particular.

In no way did I mean for my post to insinuate that.

[ronnykmarshall]

19. Good advice

Now please follow it.

You might want to start learning to speak from your brain and not your ass.

[durrrty libby]

22. "women with college degrees cannot stand the old woman"

And your education is?????

[ElizabethDC]

23. Lots of women with college degrees support her - I know dozens who do!

Including me!

[Alamom]

29. I do too and they span several age groups.This statement was a

surprise to me.

[ShortnFiery]

4. Not all intelligent women wish for HRC to be the first President who is a woman.

Many of us would rather wait for someone whom we believe is a better role model for young women.

I'm not disrespecting HRC, but please do not assume that those who do not support her are necessarily lacking in intelligence and/or educational opportunities. :shrug:

[ronnykmarshall]

20. You're just not hip enough to understand.

You must be "old".

[ShortnFiery]

25. Thank you, and if you're lucky you will grow to become as old and wise as me ...

:evilgrin: 48 y.o. and still kicking. :-)

BTW it's a true tragedy that we lost Gilda Radner to ovarian cancer. RIP dear lady. :grouphug:



I remember the foregoing because I'm an old broad who loved to watch SNL during the 70s. :hi:

[ronnykmarshall]

26. I have her "On Broadway" CD.

Remember "Let's Talk Dirty to the Animals"?

[ShortnFiery]

27. Then Kudos on your good taste in Comediennes - on that we fully agree. n/t

[illinoisprogressive]

6. Hil is repuke lite. I am waiting for a REAL: democratic woman to run and support

[rinsd]

7. Got yourself into a full lather today huh?

[ShortnFiery]

9. "full lathers" seems to be catching on all over. no one's immune here

;)

[ronnykmarshall]

17. No shit.

At least in this "gem" we didn't have to hear her ass slam "old" people.


Oh wait, I just looked and saw one of her typical slams.

[wyldwolf]

8. Obama is a repuke lite. I am waiting for a REAL: democratic african american to run and support

[durrrty libby]

14. Yeah..That's the ticket

[ronnykmarshall]

18. and a HIP one too!

[Ethelk2044]

28. You do not know what the Hell you are talking about

[ElizabethDC]

24. Do you just respond to your own threads?

And not to the other comments that people make?

[Larkspur]

15. This progressive feminist and NOW member does NOT support Hillary

I know that NOW endorsed Hillary, but there is no groundswell of enthusiasm for Hillary among NOW members I've met. I know some NOW members who are working for Edwards' campaign.