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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:07 PM
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MSNBC article: Should Hillary have run in 2004?
I think she would have easily got the nomination in 2004. It would have been an interesting race, Bush v. Clinton.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19340403/

Should Hillary Clinton have run in ’04?
Appetite for change may be too great this year for her to win


By Chuck Todd
Political Director
NBC News
Updated: 7:11 p.m. PT June 20, 2007

WASHINGTON - The perfect candidate, running in the wrong year?

Should Hillary Clinton have run in ’04?

Ever wonder how many times a Mario Cuomo contemplates what would have happened had he run in '88? Or a Bill Bradley ponders how a bid in '92 would have turned out?

Some years are better than others for certain candidates. Watching the first few months of Hillary Clinton's candidacy, I can't help but wonder what would have happened had she run in 2004.

The Democrats have debated twice and participated in a slew of forums and one thing has stood out: Clinton's preparation. She is, to date, correcting every mistake made by John Kerry (and Al Gore) in 2004 and 2000 respectively.

Clinton is running on a platform of competent (dare I say) cautious change. It's the type of change voters were looking for in both 2000 and 2004. They didn't want radical shakeups, just subtle personality and policy shifts.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:10 PM
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1. Stupid article. On one election win?
No, she COULD NOT have run then. Lord save us from this endless succession of idiots.
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:12 PM
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3. Didn't Edwards run on one election win? nt
Edited on Wed Jun-20-07 10:13 PM by TeamJordan23
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:12 PM
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2. the big thing that stands out is the nails on chalkboard voice. eeewwww
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:55 PM
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4. Right, the voice. Forget policies and records.
Edited on Wed Jun-20-07 11:59 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
MKJ

edited to add, your stance is clear to many, although you back it up with nothing of substance. I'm thinking you're a wrang-wrang in my karass.

MKJ
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 12:04 AM
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5. Is that the same as a pain the a.. . donkey?
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 12:05 AM
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6. Are you a Vonnegut fan?
Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 12:11 AM by BleedingHeartPatriot
MKJ

edited to add, I imagine you're hitting the Wikipedia.

Note to self, don't respond instantly to terms which one might not instantly understand. Thanks for teaching. :hi:
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:43 AM
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7. She would have been squashed
Only a very likeable and charismatic nominee had a change versus an incumbent in '04. That's what we amazingly ignored throughout the process. The two candidates who have bumped presidential incumbents in the TV era are Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. I still have no idea how anyone thought John Kerry fit into that category. No one was ideal but Edwards clearly came closest. That's why I backed him beginning in late '02.

Hillary is running in the perfect cycle. Her high negatives would have been political suicide in '04.
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