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Bob Geiger Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:34 AM
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Republicans Kill Webb's Troop-Protection Amendment
Edited on Wed Jul-11-07 02:39 PM by Bob Geiger
We didn’t need any further proof that Congressional Republicans really don’t give a damn about the troops or their families but we just got it in the United States Senate anyway.

Just moments ago, Senate Republicans succeeded in a filibuster in which they refused to end debate on Virginia Democrat Jim Webb's S. 2012, which would have placed strict limits on National Guard and reserve deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan as well as mandating more downtime at home before active-duty combat troops are returned to battle.

The vote was 56-41 to end debate, with 60 votes needed to move to a full, up-or-down vote on the Webb measure. Once again, the GOP has been successful at destroying another Democratic attempt at helping service members and their families caught in the buzzsaw of the Bush administration's lies and incompetence.

“We have an amendment before us that is critical for the strength of our military and the well-being of our troops. Regardless of where we stand on the war, I would hope that we stand as one in our commitment to keeping our military the strongest in the world," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) before the vote. "We should all agree that we can’t sustain that strength if our men and women in uniform aren’t given the protection and care they need. That’s not a Democratic talking point or a Republican talking point – it’s just common sense."

Apparently not to Republicans, who have now drawn yet another line in the sand -- this one saying that, in addition to not caring about keeping America's troops in Iraq forever, they don’t even care if they have to go back four or five times with insufficient training, rest and time with their families.

Of course, the always-worthless Joe Lieberman voted with Republicans to kill Webb's troop-protection amendment to the Defense Department authorization bill, along with Senator Pete Domenici (R-NM) who just showed how sincere he is in his statements about breaking ranks with George W. Bush on the Iraq occupation.

Among those joining Senate Democrats in supporting the Webb measure, were Republicans Norm Coleman, Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, John Sununu, Chuck Hagel, Gordon Smith and John Warner -- all but Snowe are up for reelection next year.

"Sadly, our forces are being burned out. Many of our troops are on their third or even their fourth tour in Iraq and Afghanistan," said Patty Murray (D-WA) on the Senate floor Tuesday. "Months ago, the Department of Defense announced that their tours would be extended from 12 months to 15 months. And on top of all that, they are not receiving the necessary time at home before they are sent back to battle."

And until Democrats get past 60 votes in the Senate, it's hard to guess when relief is coming.

November 2008 can't get here fast enough.

I will have more information on this vote later.

You can read more from Bob at BobGeiger.com.

Update: The list of Republicans who voted to kill Webb's legislation and who don't "support the troops" in any way, shape or form is here.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:36 AM
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1. Republicons prove again: they HATE our troops and veterans
Because so many republicons are ashamed of their own chickenhawk status -- and well they should be ashamed.

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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:37 AM
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2. Screwface McConnell said...
That obstruction through filibuster, on just about everything, will be their operative strategy.

Surely, there must be some arcane tactic that Reid can use to turn the tables.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:38 AM
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3. This vote needs to be thrown in the face of any Repuke that says they 'support the troops'!
For eternity!!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 12:01 PM
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7. That was indeed the whole point of this....
McConnel and Voinovich both voted for the filibuster so expect the two incumbants to face strong anti troop commercials in next years election...
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 12:21 PM
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10. I hope they do go after them
VoteVets is really effective. When I called Snowe and Collins, I pointed out that supporting the troops means treating them like human beings. My critters both voted "yes" but anyone living in a state with represented by one of these heartless bastards needs to take the time to make some calls, tell their neighbors, and write a letter to the editor.

I'm thinking that the republicans are composing some crack-pot bill that will make it look like the Dems. don't want to end this war.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 12:39 PM
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14. Voinovich is my Senator and he will have very credible opposition
this year...
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 12:03 PM
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8. May VoteVets go after each and everyone of them running in 2008!
At the top of my list is Elizabeth Dole. :nuke:

The military families in Eastern North Carolina must get wind of this. I find this unspeakable.:nuke:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:40 AM
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4. Let's see now, republicans boost that they are the supporters and protectors of our troops
...yet "...in addition to not caring about keeping America's troops in Iraq forever, they don’t even care if they have to go back four or five times with insufficient training, rest and time with their families."
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 02:21 PM
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19. that's because most of them never served in the military
therefore they probably think that the troops who are on their 4th tour of duty are a bunch of whining babies who want to slack off instead of human beings who are being bombarded with too much stress. IT certainly explains how they allowed Walter Reed to become what it has.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:50 AM
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5. This vote needs lots of attention, which the MSM won't give it.
We need to highlight this in the state of every senator who voted against cloture.

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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:56 AM
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6. Absolutely DISGUSTING !
As a Veteran and American Citizen this absolutely disgusts me, they (RePukes) make all kind of claims about supporting the troops, and here we go again, they willfully, and without conscience throw shit in the face of every service member AGAIN!!!!
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 12:11 PM
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9. K&R
Unbelievable...

What could they have been thinking? Or were they?

It just makes me sick...

And this supports the troops how?
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demgirlamerica Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 12:23 PM
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11. contact dem senators
we must make them hear from us that we want the war ended
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:06 AM
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24. Every Dem voted "aye." this is the second time I've seen you spam this
line.

We need to call the damn RRRepublicans. :eyes:
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 12:28 PM
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12. I just called dickhead Martinez and asked WHY he voted "ney"
And I was told that they do not have the "official reason yet" but it will be put up on the press page of the site.

I also asked if Martinez was planning on working through all of his planned vacations since he thinks cutting vacation time is so insignificant.

Washington:
United States Senate
356 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Main: (202) 224-3041
Fax: (202) 228-5171
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 12:28 PM
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13. Not sure on how to look it up...
...but I distinctly remember a thread on the repubs getting their marching orders from the RNC...
Block and obstruct EVERYTHING, no matter how good it looks, or how much they might approve of it personally.
Don't let the Dems have a single victory. It's all about politics and party; and not the people who are actually affected by this gameplaying.

Yep, these are the kind of dedicated, principled, singleminded people we need ruining running the country...NOT!
:nuke::grr:
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 12:43 PM
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15. What SOB's...............eom
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 01:17 PM
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16. GOP Fear: What If We Gave a War, and Nobody Came?
Then they would have to enlist and do their own fighting!
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 01:19 PM
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17. Couldn't they have added this in Committee?
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holboz Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 01:49 PM
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18. I'm sure the Repukes will introduce their own amazingly similiar plan...
Haven't they pulled this stunt before?

I really don't understand where on earth they get the gutzpah to pull shit like this.

It will come back to haunt them.
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 03:14 PM
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20. when I heard a republican say 'politicans should not tell the military' I nearly
threw up. That is exactly what our democracy is based on. The military does what the civilian leadership says to do. One of the most dearly held principles of most men who serve in the military.
My dad must be turning in his grave.
I am so mad I am biting nails:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :wtf:
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 09:20 PM
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21. Get Jim Webb Pissed!
Go ahead- I dare you- You have no idea who you're messing with.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:32 PM
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22. Bastards.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:37 PM
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23. I would have hoped
that the senators from Alaska, Stevens and Murkowski, would have voted for this amendment in light of the strong military presence in Alaska and the ever increasing deaths and casualties, but no, once again they toe the party line. This vote just completely blows my mind.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:52 AM
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25. This should be made an election issue. Forever. This bill must be passed at all costs. (nt)
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