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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 06:02 PM
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The UN Backs Obama Re: Pakistan
Article 51 of the UN Charter:

"Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security."

In case some have forgotten, bin Laden et al attacked the US big time.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 06:07 PM
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1. Just because it's allowed doesn't make it wise.
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 06:10 PM
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3. Obama is Correct Bin Ladin attacked us Not Iraq.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 06:19 PM
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10. Wow....thanks for the breaking news!
I have to rethink everything now. x(

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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 06:08 PM
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2. This shit is getting funny...
You guys won't quit will you?

He is FUCKING up on a diplomatic level genius...
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 06:11 PM
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4. Edwards did that when he pushed for Iraq war instead of Afghan.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 06:12 PM
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6. No, what he is saying is provoking a discussion, and that's good. n/t
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 06:14 PM
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8. Don't look now! Edwards agrees with Obama! LOL
"NBC's Lauren Appelbaum reports that Edwards, on the other hand, agreed with Obama, though admitted he didn't watch the speech or see a transcript.

"My belief is that we have a responsibility to find bin Laden and al Qaeda wherever they operate," Edwards said on camera. "I think we need to maximize pressure on Musharraf and the Pakistani government. If they can't do the job, then we have to do it."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/08/01/300839.aspx
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 06:19 PM
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9. Wow! This Will Cause Great Confusion For Mrs. Clinton!
Even as we speak she's convened hundreds of focus groups around the country to figger out how she can agree with Obama and Edwards, while disagreeing at the same time.

If those two had different positions, she'd just pop up between them - but two positions that are identical? Her worst nightmare.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 06:11 PM
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5. No one is arguing that. The whole arguement is telling them
we are coming.:banghead:
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 06:21 PM
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11. They already know we are coming
And no candidate has stated when we are coming

Do you really believe the Al-Qaeda leadership thinks we aren't out to get them? (well, since Bush has ignored them, maybe...)
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 06:13 PM
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7. Pakistan is one very tiny part of a very big speech stressing diplomacy.
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