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Wed Aug-08-07 06:51 PM
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If the AFL/CIO or labor in general vote for Hillary in the primaries, they deserve what they get |
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To me Edwards seems like the only candidate who won't be obligated to corporate interests over labor
You could say Kucinich is more pro-labor, and even though there is some truth to that, the reality is that he won't get the nomination
Their is a reason why Clinton and Obama get so much more coverage than Edwards, and that is because they are much more corporate, and NAFTA friendly
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Wed Aug-08-07 06:59 PM
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1. No females are going to be elected president. |
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It will be a century before that will ever happen.
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Wed Aug-08-07 07:03 PM
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2. Senator Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic Nominee for the 08 Presidential Election. |
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A Democrat will win the 08 Election and be sworn in as President.... :applause:
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Wed Aug-08-07 07:07 PM
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4. I'm not supporting her, or anyone at this point, |
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but I've been impressed with her campaign. She's a fighter, and if she gets the nomination there's not a doubt in my mind that she'll win.
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Wed Aug-08-07 07:08 PM
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5. Unfortunately I believe she will be the nominee. Fortunately, I believe she will win |
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Unfortunately, she will NOT be good for labor
Fortunately, she will at least maintain a woman's right to choose, and other civil rights issues that will be brought before the Supreme Court. Of course, so would any of the other candidates
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Wed Aug-08-07 07:11 PM
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6. I don't think she'll be bad for labor, |
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based on what she's said in the campaign, but I don't know enough to argue about it. I agree with the rest of your post though.
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Wed Aug-08-07 07:19 PM
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8. If she is the nominee I will vote for her, but I think she has too many corporate favors to pay back |
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not meant to be a hit against her, just my view.
Also to some degree that may be what is necessary to win today
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Wed Aug-08-07 07:29 PM
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15. That's exactly what the Republicans want. It's the only way they will win the presidency next time |
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Wed Aug-08-07 07:06 PM
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3. I do not agree with that assessment /nt |
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Wed Aug-08-07 07:31 PM
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16. The country that voted for GW Bush TWICE (regardless of the theft of some votes)..... |
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Edited on Wed Aug-08-07 07:52 PM by Sarah Ibarruri
is a racist country, and a sexist country, and a country where no women and no blacks will be elected president for another century, at least.
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Thu Aug-09-07 03:12 AM
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22. Some of that may be true, except the Democrats are still going to win no matter who the gender |
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Your generalization is much too deep, but the other reason is that the choice of candidates that the republicans have will not win
bush won twice because PEOPLE DIDN'T BOTHER TO VOTE. That will not happen this time
I remember the civil rights movement in the sixties, and things are definitely better than they were for minorities and women
That does not mean there is still not a lot to do, but progress has been made
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Thu Aug-09-07 07:13 PM
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24. Okay, so what makes you think this is some magical time in our nation? |
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I mean, what gives you the impression that this time around DROVES will show up to vote, and they will have no qualms about voting in a woman or a black guy for president? Something giving you the idea that everything in our country has changed somehow?
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Wed Aug-08-07 07:20 PM
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9. Sadly, I believe you are correct. |
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They are setting her up to be destroyed.
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Wed Aug-08-07 07:23 PM
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12. And how will they destroy her? Are they going to bring up Bill Clinton? |
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with the scandals that have emerged in the last 6 years against the republicans, I don't think it will hold much water, especially since she isn't bill
If the republicans had a different set of candidates, I might tend to agree with you, but with the current selection, I don't think the top three Democratic candidates will have any trouble beating the republicans
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Wed Aug-08-07 07:32 PM
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17. Yep! Why else would someone like Rupert Murdoch give her funds to run for office? |
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The same reason the GOP was giving Nader funds to run for office.
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Wed Aug-08-07 07:56 PM
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so democrats will lose. hopefully we will NOT have another dukakis/KERRY nominee. shit. when are democrats going to wake the fuck up. did clinton teach them nothing??? at least edwards or obama have a chance.
after 8 years of bushit i want a fucking progressive!!!
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Wed Aug-08-07 08:15 PM
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21. The century is already here |
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Not only that, which among the male candidates really wants to get blamed from losing in Iraq? I think it would be better to have a woman in office and then the Repugs can blame it on a woman for losing Iraq. I don't think the Repugs want to be in office when Iraq and Afghanistan starts spiraling out of control, as if it hasn't already done so. Better to blame it on Hillary.
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Wed Aug-08-07 07:14 PM
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7. Don't know much about Edwards, do you? |
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Edited on Wed Aug-08-07 07:14 PM by Clark2008
If Labor really wanted to vote their interests, they'd go with Kucinich, of those running.
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Wed Aug-08-07 07:20 PM
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10. I agree, but I also think he stands even less of a chance of getting the nomination |
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From an idealistic point of view, he is the best for labor, and most other issues.
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Wed Aug-08-07 07:21 PM
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11. Thank you for your support of our candidates. n/t |
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Wed Aug-08-07 07:24 PM
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13. If people don't vote against their own interests, the Democrats should win in 2008 /nt |
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Wed Aug-08-07 07:27 PM
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14. You have any facts to back up any of those claims. |
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Edited on Wed Aug-08-07 07:27 PM by Dawgs
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Wed Aug-08-07 07:37 PM
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18. Whoa. That headline doesn't hold back, does it? |
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Is that you Elizabeth? Go on, tell us those blue-collar Hillary supporters are "slummy" and they're doing it "just to spite us." On a more serious level, look, Mrs. Edwards: you need to take care of yourself for once. Admit you don't want to run for President at this point in your own life while you're battling cancer. Talk to your husband. If he loves you, he'll understand. Time to go home.
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Wed Aug-08-07 08:11 PM
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20. Edwards is from a right-to-work state |
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and Hillary and Obama are not.
I was fired by an NC-based company for union organizing last year. So I have a gripe against NC companies and NC politicians in general. IMHO North Carolina is still a bastion of anti-unionism.
What has Edwards done to create a union-friendly environment in his homestate? And why is NC still notoriously anti-union? I don't trust any senator which represents a state with a large military-industrial complex like North Carolina. Too many hidden agendas.
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Thu Aug-09-07 05:45 AM
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23. What company did you work for, so we can BOYCOTT them. |
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