Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

I am considering voting for Kucinich in the California Primary.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 05:31 PM
Original message
I am considering voting for Kucinich in the California Primary.
I will not vote for Clinton or Edwards under any circumstances. I'm still considering Obama, but my vote is not set in stone. So, if nobody else enters the race, I'll be voting for either Kucinich or Obama.

Convince me why I should vote for one or the other.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 05:33 PM
Response to Original message
1. His position on the war, his leadership in the impeachment,
his support for gay MARRIAGE...for those of us who don't want to be relegated to the back of the bus.

He is just so right on so many issues.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 05:35 PM
Response to Original message
2. Good choice, Right now I am either him, Obama, possibly Edwards, one of the
three of them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 05:36 PM
Response to Original message
3. I will vote for him in the primary
and the Dem nominee in the general. I just agree with him on too many issues not to vote that way.

Do your research and make your choice. You might try this website as it may be of help.



http://www.dehp.net/candidate/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #3
9. I'm leaning toward Kucinich
and the survey results seemed to confirm this. No surprise, but interesting. I'm currently transitioning from supporting Edwards to "what the hell; I might as well vote in the primary for the candidate I am most in agreement with (Kucinich)". Who knows, maybe if enough people like me make the same decision...

It was surprising that Edwards and HRC were only one point apart in my results (HRC scored 1 point higher than Edwards).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 05:37 PM
Response to Original message
4. It would be very interesting if the convention was deadlocked.

with no immediate clear winning. An open convention. I little excitment. With the primaries soooooooooo early it's going to be a long 2008.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 05:39 PM
Response to Original message
5. I live in CA too
I haven't decided who I will vote for either.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 05:39 PM
Response to Original message
6. Vote for Kucinich
He's very straight forward and doesn't screw around with words, doesn't even hesitant. Obama couldn't answer a question about Barry Bonds so that makes him a bit weak leader, don't you think? A leader should be able to be strong in mind without fear.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
whopgood Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 05:40 PM
Response to Original message
7. Kucinich
Did you watch the HRC/Logo Democratic debate last night? That would have changed your mind. The thing is, Dennis talks love, not war. Yeah, that slogan from the 60s and 70s. He is an articulate, wonderful human being. After watching, my fondness for Obama did go up. However, Bill Richardson was just plain wrong (um, Sir? I respect that you have done much for the GLBT community, but WHY do you think homosexuality is a choice?), and Hillary was PATRONIZING. Melissa Etheridge was right in asking why she and the rest of the GLBT community was thrown under the bus during the Clinton years, and Hillary was a bit snide and patronizing in her answers. I have no idea why gay people would think she won the debate; Even with the slight gaffe by Kucinich in his delayed pause to his summation, he still did much better than anyone else.

FYI, the HRC/Logo post-debate poll is at http://www.gay.com/content/poll/?id=5189&navpath=/channels/news/ if anyone wants to vote. How Hillary can be leading with 68% is beyond me. Kucinich is second with 15%. And after his horrible presentation, I'm actually glad to see Bill Richardson with 0% support in that poll.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 05:41 PM
Response to Original message
8. If you want to vote for him in the primary, do it! EOM
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 05:54 PM
Response to Original message
10. How about if I just tell you
my reasons, and allow you to ponder and make your own choice?

FTW, I am a former calteachergal.

I understand where you are at with Clinton and Edwards; I'm also there with Obama. I know that he is smart, healthy, handsome, has dignity, has charisma, and is an eloquent speaker. He also does not have the experience and record I'm looking for, and I actually disagree with his positions on too many issues, more than any of the other candidates.

I vote on issues and record, not on poll numbers, propaganda, or money. That moves Obama off my list.

I won't spend a whole post detailing everything about Obama I don't like, but I'll give you the top 3 deal breakers:

1. Supports mentor pay for teachers. I don't even have a handshake or a smile for him, let alone a vote. Interestingly enough, I was teaching in CA in the early years of high-stakes testing, and actually have a photocopy of the check I got for "mentor pay" on the wall; I do have some background on that issue.

2. He is a hawk who will continue the so-called "war on terror," expanding into other nations, legally or not, in his search for OBL. I said this once before. The time to round up OBL has long passed; we've killed enough people and decimated the budget and enough of our national infrastructure. If he surfaces, fine. Let's snatch him. If not, we have other more pressing priorities.

3. He is too willing to leave too many things "on the table" that shouldn't be there. Example? nuclear power is on the table even though there is currently no safe and sane way to dispose of the by products.

Kucinich has my vote. Why? I like his position on the issues best, and he actually walks his talk. He actually votes his talk. He actually introduces legislation to move those issues forward. He is as much action as talk, and his actions support the talk.

I know the arguments against him, and the only comment I will make is this: if Democrats never have the courage to put working for the people "back on the table" by electing people who actually work for people, rather than corporations, lobbyists, etc., then it doesn't really matter what candidate you vote for. We won't get the change we wish to see.

Top 3 issues for DK:

1. Universal, single-payer, not-for-profit health care.
2. End Iraq, bring the troops home, and invest time and resources into domestic infrastructure and other issues.
3. No more WTO/NAFTA/CAFTA

There are many more, but these are the big 3.

Top reason? He's the best on issues and record, he's consistent, and he has more spine, commitment, and vision than the rest of them combined.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 06:25 PM
Response to Original message
11. Kucinich is consistant, and walks his talk
He has always been for the people, ever since he was mayor of Cleveland. He is the only one whose health care plan is closest to Moore's ideal, he's cosponsored the bill H. R. 676. He has never voted to enable the Iraq War. He calls for impeachment and again sponsors a bill-H. Res. 333-to impeach Cheney.

Kucinich is not a lawyer. He's been a steelworker, worked in a hospital, and as a cameraman. His house is not palatial--its valuation is less than 30K.

Kucinich is the real deal.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 06:28 PM
Response to Original message
12. I voted for Kuchinich in the primary last time around and
Edited on Fri Aug-10-07 06:28 PM by LibDemAlways
I'd do it again for one simple reason. Of all the candidates, his views are closest to mine. In the general, I'll vote for the party nominee (possibly with nose firmly held).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 06:29 PM
Response to Original message
13. Add two more here...I have always love him, but thought he couldn't
win.. but then again if we use this as an excuse then we are playing right into their hands. Last night we decided to vote for him in the primary...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 06:33 PM
Response to Original message
14. I am definitely voting for Kucinich in the primary...
My mind and heart are in total agreement on this one...

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 06:49 PM
Response to Original message
15. DK has got my vote in the CT primary!
:bounce:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 07:23 PM
Response to Original message
16. I thought you already decided on obama
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 07:30 PM
Response to Original message
17. If he's your real favorite, then do it
Don't vote for someone just because all your friends are voting for that person or because you're trying to second guess who other people might like.

The primary is your one chance to express your preference.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 07:46 PM
Response to Original message
18. I will vote for Kucinich in the primary also...
he's the only candidate that isn't afraid...

I got a hug from him at Take Back America after his amazing speech there, he is absolutely inspiring!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 07:55 PM
Response to Original message
19. Honey...you need to chill.....
You must be exhausted jumping from candidate to candidate like that....and 1245 posts in only 3 months..:freak: I'm thinking something's up with that.:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 09:57 PM
Response to Original message
20. DK is the ONLY one I will vote for in 2008 nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 10:06 PM
Response to Original message
21. I will support the nominee of the Democratic Party - but the primaries I will vote my concience


Congressman Dennis Kucinich on the issues:

http://www2.kucinich.us/issues

Some are supporting Congressman Kucinich because they strongly believe he can win. Others are supporting him because they support his agenda (or at least most of it) and want those issues brought to the center of public debate.

Mr. Kucinich does not have the funding of the top-tier candidates. Corporate lobbyist seeking government favoritism for their special interest won’t be writing their $2300 checks paying for access like they do for other candidates. But small donations DO add up very, very fast. That's how the Dean campaign became a significant force in 2004.

So whether or not you are convinced that Congressman Kucinich could possibly win...if you want the issues only Dennis Kucinich raises brought to the public square, if you believe his message of Strength through Peace is important, that the whole question of corporate control of government is important, that single-payer universal health care is important, if you believe American needs fundamental changes; his campaign needs a lot more money then it has in its coffers now.

IF anywhere near half the people who agree with Congressman Dennis Kucinich on the issues sent him a donation -- he would be a major top-tier contender very, very fast:

Donating through DU/ACT Blue is very fast. It's very easy. Do it now! I did...

link:

http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/12518

---------

If those who care about the issues Mr. Kucinich raises donate NOW – HE WILL BE

A TOP-TIER CANDIATE!!

It's fast. It's very easy. Do it now! I did…..

link:

http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/12518


.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 11:47 PM
Response to Original message
22. Vote Kucinich n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 11:57 PM
Response to Original message
23. DK has some good ideas.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 12:00 AM
Response to Original message
24. Vote for someone that can win the GE.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 05th 2024, 09:57 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC