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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:23 AM
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Multi-state survey suggests Clinton would win in landslide (136 EV's to 17 for Ghoul in 12 states)
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 11:28 AM by draft_mario_cuomo
Via DailyKos, new SurveyUSA automated surveys testing Sen. Hillary Clinton against former Mayor Rudy Giuliani, former Sen. Fred Thompson, and former Gov. Mitt Romney in statewide general election match-ups (conducted 8/10 through 8/12) find:

Alabama:
Clinton 44%, Giuliani 50%
Clinton 47%, Thompson 49%
Clinton 48%, Romney 46%

California:
Clinton 56%, Giuliani 39%
Clinton 59%, Thompson 34%
Clinton 60%, Romney 32%

Iowa:
Clinton 52%, Giuliani 40%
Clinton 53%, Thompson 40%
Clinton 51%, Romney 42%

Kentucky:
Clinton 49%, Giuliani 44%
Clingon 51%, Thompson 44%
Clinton 53%, Romney 41%

Minnesota:
Clinton 47%, Giuliani 44%
Clinton 50%, Thompson 41%
Clinton 52%, Romney 36%

Missouri:
Clinton 46%, Giuliani 47%
Clinton 48%, Thompson 46%
Clinton 49%, Romney 43%

New Mexico:
Clinton 49%, Giuliani 43%
Clinton 52%, Thompson 40%
Clinton 53%, Romney 38%

Ohio:
Clinton 48%, Giuliani 45%
Clinton 50%, Thompson 43%
Clinton 51%, Romney 40%

Oregon:
Clinton 52%, Giuliani 42%
Clinton 53%, Thompson 41%
Clinton 57%, Romney 37%

Virginia:
Clinton 49%, Giuliani 46%
Clinton 51%, Thompson 42%
Clinton 53%, Romney 39%

Washington:
Clinton 55%, Giuliani 40%
Clinton 57%, Thompson 38%
Clinton 57%, Romney 36%

Wisconsin:
Clinton 46%, Giuliani 46%
Clinton 48%, Thompson 45%
Clinton 49%, Romney 42%

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/poll_surveyusa_clinton_ges_in.php

Clinton wins 136 electoral votes to 17 for Ghouliani in these states.

Note: I once bought the notion that HRC was unelecable. However, the facts have proven that wrong. Right now she is definitely electable.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:25 AM
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1. Ras has her winning, MO, PA, IL & NY. Quinipiac has her winning PA, OH & FL.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:27 AM
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2. Edwards and Clinton would win easily. Obama is the weak link
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 11:29 AM by draft_mario_cuomo
How exactly is Obama going to win if he loses FL, PA, OH and flips no red states? It takes 270 electoral votes to win, not a 4 point lead against McCain in a national trial heat.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:29 AM
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4. Its strange that his national head to heads are so much better than his by state ones.
We're talking 10 pt differences in some cases and he is supposed to attract indies & peel off GOPers.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:31 AM
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7. He probably runs up big margins in blue states and that inflates his national numbers
How else can he outperform Clinton in the popular vote trial heats but consistently lose in swing states and not flip any red states, like Edwards and Clinton?

==he is supposed to attract indies & peel off GOPers.==

Apparently that is another myth.
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:30 AM
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5. Can you show he will lose FL, PA, OH, and flip no red states? nm
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:42 AM
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9. Obama is currently losing to Rudy in PA, FL & OH according to Quinnipiac
FL - Giuliani tops Obama 44 - 41 percent

OH - Giuliani defeats Obama 42 - 39 percent

PA - Giuliani beats Obama 45 - 40 percent and edges Edwards 45 - 43 percent

He beats Thompson and McCain when they are included.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x271.xml

Rasmussen and SurveyUSA have not really put out much in terms of Obama head to heads.

Rasmussen has Obama up big over all the GOP in IL but that is to be expected.
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:48 AM
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11. Isn't that poll almost a month old now??
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:50 AM
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14. FL & OH are 20 days old. PA was taken last week.
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:49 AM
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13. DMC, still waiting for your recent stats. Are you gonna produce them?
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 02:11 PM
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24. See post 9 nt
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 02:12 PM by draft_mario_cuomo
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:31 AM
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6. Obama is depending on the RW Vote..
He's been Licking GOP Butt for some time now.

I have no idea why he is running as a democrat when he prefers Republican advisers.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:48 AM
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12. No way in hell Giuliani carries New York. The city hates him.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:28 AM
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3. They're obviously not polling the pouty, stamp their feet and not vote crowd
:D
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 12:33 PM
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17. You're BAD!
I like bad boyz!
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:32 AM
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8. Funny, it seems has though OP has jumped boats after his candidate wants GOP cabinet members. nm
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:44 AM
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10. But what will those numbers be once the republicans begin
campaigning against her instead of for her?
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:51 AM
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15. lol. very true. nm
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 12:13 PM
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16. The GOP is too busy getting Obama primed for the race..
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 01:14 PM
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19. Evidence? Links?
Anything at all?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 01:47 PM
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20. It's been posted many times..
plus advisers, like Powell, Kagan, Bush Pioneers... you've been mia...
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 01:54 PM
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21. General election polls don't mean shit 6 months before the race begins.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 02:13 PM
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26. Isn't Obama touting his electability? nt
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 02:09 PM
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23. Kagan said something vaguely complimentary about him.
That doesn't make him a supporter. I've heard nothing about Powell being an advisor. And there are several thousand "Bush Pioneers" - want to be a little more specific?

I think you're making shit up to counter all the repukes who keep touting for Hillary (which is, of course, purely strategic, not evidence of real support).
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 02:13 PM
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27. You can't have it both ways. So did Brezinski and that was hyped as an "endorsement" here by BO fans
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 02:19 PM
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29. Well, I'm not an Obama fan, and I don't claim "endorsement"
for anyone unless it really is an endorsement. Which is right in line with my thinking that the GOPpers who talk nice about Hillary are only doing that because they want her to be the nominee - not because they endorse her. Rove never endorsed Hillary - but he believes she can be beaten, thus the back-handed "formidible opponant" who is "fatally flawed". He was speaking the truth - the last thing we would ever expect from him.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 02:30 PM
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30. Kagan is not a supporter. He's working for Obama..
Pay more attention before you make a fool of yourself by falsely accusing people of misrepresentaions..I'm not responsible for your failures of knowing whats going on with Obama. Powell giving Obama Foreign Policy advise isn't a secret..Google Powell and Obama..

May 6, 2007

Republicans defect to the Obama camp

Sarah Baxter, Washington

DISILLUSIONED supporters of President George W Bush are defecting to Barack Obama, the Democratic senator for Illinois, as the White House candidate with the best chance of uniting a divided nation.

Tom Bernstein went to Yale University with Bush and co-owned the Texas Rangers baseball team with him. In 2004 he donated the maximum $2,000 to the president’s reelection campaign and gave $50,000 to the Republican National Committee. This year he is switching his support to Obama. He is one of many former Bush admirers who find the Democrat newcomer appealing.
Matthew Dowd, Bush’s chief campaign strategist in 2004, announced last month that he was disillusioned with the war in Iraq and the president’s “my way or the highway” style of leadership � the first member of Bush’s inner circle to denounce the leader’s performance in office.

Although Dowd has yet to endorse a candidate, he said the only one he liked was Obama. “I think we should design campaigns that appeal, not to 51% of the people, but bring the country together as a whole,” Dowd said.

Bernstein is a champion of human rights, who admires Obama’s call for action on Darfur, while Dowd’s opposition to the war has been sharpened by the expected deployment to Iraq of his son, an Arabic-speaking Army intelligence specialist.

But last week a surprising new name joined the chorus of praise for the antiwar Obama � that of Robert Kagan, a leading neoconservative and co-founder of the Project for the New American Century in the late 1990s, which called for the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.

Kagan is an informal foreign policy adviser to the Republican senator John McCain, who remains the favoured neoconservative choice for the White House because of his backing for the troops in Iraq. (Since he quit McCain, he's now on Obama's team)

http://blog.texansforobama.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=3B4EF3409A8DA0E1A833C7574841D08E?diaryId=76
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 02:12 PM
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25. The same can be said about every Dem candidate--and it cuts both ways
The GOP candidate's unfavorables will rise as well when the GE campaign begins.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 12:35 PM
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18. Against Guiliani she would flip 6 Red States according to this poll...
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 12:37 PM by SaveElmer
And Thompson as well...against Romney she would flip 7...

Add Quinnipiac showing her flipping Arkansas and Florida...that number jumps to 8 and 9 respectively...

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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 01:54 PM
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22. And Obama supporters are flipping their cookies..
denying Hillary's strength to date.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 02:14 PM
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28. Romney and FT have low name ID so their numbers mean less than the Ghoul ones nt
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