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Wed Aug-29-07 04:19 PM
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Why is Craig being thrown under the bus while Vitter was let off the hook... |
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One accused of soliciting homosexual sex...
One admittedly whoring around with female prostitutes...
Gee, what could it be?
:sarcasm:
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:20 PM
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1. I heard the expression for this is... |
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"A dead woman or a live boy."
Vitter's women lived, so that's nothing.
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:23 PM
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4. Good question to ask the Republicans! |
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I'd loved to see how they try and wiggle out of that one! Hope someone in the media asks that question!
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:20 PM
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2. I think its the cloudy weather he caused in Idaho. eom |
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:22 PM
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3. Actually, it's probably not what you think. |
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When Vitter got nabbed, he went to the GOP leadership and organized his next moves with them. Craig, however, consulted no one and went out on his own trying to cover it up.
I don't think Craig's getting slammed because of the gay aspect. I think he's getting slammed for leaving the ranch. The GOP's like the Mafia in a weird way.
Of course, the gay thing probably does hurt him a bit more with the GOP, if you'll allow me the understatement. ;)
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:24 PM
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7. YEP that is what happened. Craig was STUPID in somany ways. |
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:25 PM
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...and here I just figured Craig had refused too many of his fellow hypocritical Republican blowhards.
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:26 PM
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13. Do you think if he'd gone to the leadership and told them... |
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He'd been busted for soliciting homosexual sex they would have treated him the same way as they did Vitter? I doubt it frankly
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:28 PM
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15. I agree with you. He wouldn't have gotten the same treatment as Vitter... |
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but neither, I think, would he currently be getting thrown under the bus by everyone with an "R" after their name.
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:33 PM
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20. He would've been smart... |
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...to toss in a few heartfelt blowjobs with his confession.
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:34 PM
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21. Possibly...but I think you are giving them too much credit... |
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I agree with Bucky down thread...being anti homosexual is one of the things that defines the Republican Party right now...I think they would have simply told him to take a hike and it would have come out sooner...
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:32 PM
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18. Yes, but the sting of learning this from other than Craig ticked them off. |
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remeber these guys thing they are special.
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:30 PM
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16. I think your example kinda undoes your point |
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Of course Craig didn't go to his fellow Republicans and say, "Hey, guys, I just got popped trying to finagle a hummer from a dude in bathroom in Minneapolis. Can you help me get out from under this?"
Republicans don't expend a lot of hate on prostitutes. Hating gays is practically what defines them as a party--probably moreso than opposition to abortion does these days.
It'd be like the Deputy Grand Poobah of the KKK going up to the Exalted Cyclops and saying, "Hey, Earl, I just found out I'm half black and been cutting checks to the ACLU. Can you help me burn down the courthouse and the local bank?"
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:47 PM
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25. Right-o - explained very clearly last night on |
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Countdown. Those rethug daddies want to know where you are, what you're doing, who/what you're doing it w/ and how much money can you donate to the rethug war chest.
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Thu Aug-30-07 09:09 PM
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33. Also, there is something really creepy about soliciting anonyous sex in the bathroom |
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Very different from ongoing trysts with a prostitute - while the latter is certainly just as illegal, it just doesn't have the stench attached to it that trolling for sex in the men's room has.
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:24 PM
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5. because it's ok to run after hookers in dirty diapers if your straight but not if you're gay! |
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:25 PM
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10. My impression as well...nt |
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:24 PM
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6. Several reasons I think. |
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1. I heard the Pub leadership was REALLY pi&&ed at Craig for not telling them about this back in June and asking for THEIR guidance!
2. His obvious stupidity in his lying, and just sounding completely unbelievable isn't acceptable behavior for a Senator.
3. He was one of THEIR superstars in fighting against gay issues.
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:43 PM
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23. I noted you didn't use the work "hipocrisy" which just goes to show you realize |
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their moral "center" is so far to the right, they can't conceive of the concept.
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Wed Aug-29-07 05:00 PM
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27. The Pubs don't recognize the word hypocracy! I thought the OP |
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asked why the Pubs were throwing Larry under the bus. Hypocracy would NOT be one of the Pub's reasons!
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:25 PM
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9. To distract from gonzo nt |
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:28 PM
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14. That's what I said and got slammed for it |
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But consider this has been an item in the Idaho press for three weeks now. Consider that Craig is ruined in his home district. Consider also that Gonzo needed the heat taken off during his last 3 weeks in office.
It fits. There was no sacrifice in taking the story nationally. Craig was already done for in his own district.
Just don't expect a replacement to be any better.
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:25 PM
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11. If Craig resigns, a repuke governor will pick his replacement. |
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If Vitters resigns, a Dem governor will pick his replacement. That may have something to do with it.
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:32 PM
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:25 PM
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12. because republicans are selective in what "VA:UES" to enforce?? |
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:33 PM
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19. how about because one was caught by cops in criminal acts |
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and the other was exposed by someone who isn't credible to the GOP base
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:41 PM
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22. Hypocrisy and homophobia. But also, Craig PLEAD GUILTY to a crime |
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Plus, there is nothing inherently wrong with going to a prostitute. Honestly. If you are married, that's bad, but that's between you and your wife.
If you are in airports soliciting sex from strangers who aren't on board with your idea, that's a WHOLLY different matter. It could involve you and me, just taking a piss at the airport. With Vitter, the only way you are affected is if you are married to him. Everyone else is a willing participant.
I think they are very different offenses.
Now, the repukes are still HUGE hypocrites for not tossing out Vitter after all the bullshit that entire party gave Clinton hell for a blowjob from someone he didn't have to pay.
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:47 PM
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24. America can't stop talking about sex and it is a perfect diversion |
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The bu$h regime needed a diversion from all the potential Katrina news, so this story was out there. They just let it blow into the media frenzy and low and behold, Katrina is only a mention in the news.
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Wed Aug-29-07 04:59 PM
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26. They want Vitter to stay because the Democratic governor |
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would appoint a Democratic replacement. Otherwise, he'd be in the stall next to Larry.
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Wed Aug-29-07 05:07 PM
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29. good point to make here.thank you. |
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Wed Aug-29-07 05:07 PM
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28. Vitter is not Gay..Just a diaper wearing hypocrite! |
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Wed Aug-29-07 05:08 PM
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30. a variety of things -- plead guilty, more recent, gay |
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The fact that he was caught, arrested, and plead guilty is the big one. Also, the fact that it was recent (Vitter's calls were in the 1999-2001 period). Also, Vitter "asked for forgiveness".
And, of course, Craig involved approaching another man in a public restroom, which is way more icky to repubs (and generally to most people) than calling/seeing a hooker.
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Wed Aug-29-07 05:22 PM
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31. Vitter's seat could go to a democrat |
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but in Idaho there is no chance a democrat would win.
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Thu Aug-30-07 08:08 PM
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Edited on Thu Aug-30-07 08:11 PM by demommom
Craig will be replaced by another Republican and Vitter would be replaced with a Democrat? Sorry, I did not see that you guys had already said that.
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