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Mon Sep-03-07 05:14 PM
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The unions prefer Kucinich |
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But Kucinich is considered a long shot for the nomination, and Edwards is trailing front-runners Clinton and Obama in polls. "If electability wasn't a problem, Kucinich would be the front-runner," said Robert Bruno, a professor at the Institute of Labor and Industrial Relations at the University of Illinois at Chicago.
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Mon Sep-03-07 05:17 PM
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1. I know they prefer him, as do I... |
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But why do they?
Are there any specific reasons?
I should know this already...
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Mon Sep-03-07 05:17 PM
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2. Kucinich is the only one that stays on the same course |
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The rest follow the polls and every time they change their mind about something it gets them lots of media attention. Too bad we don't pick the best candidate versus the ones with the best commercials too.
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Mon Sep-03-07 05:49 PM
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9. Stays the same course? Doesn't change his mind? How about changing his mind on choice..... |
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Just to run for President in 2004.
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Mon Sep-03-07 06:15 PM
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14. I don't ever recall that |
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And I'd love to see some factual proof of it.
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Mon Sep-03-07 06:16 PM
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"Just to run for president."
The shift happened BEFORE he was DRAFTED by supporters to run for president in '04. The flood of supporters asking him to run came after "A Prayer For America."
It's certainly true that he has shifted his stance on choice. That's one, and I'm glad he made that shift.
It's held true since he did not get the nomination in '04. It wasn't a cosmetic shift, and he consistently votes, and walks, his talk. Unlike many other candidates.
The rest of the time, he's been right to begin with, before the rest of the pack, and doesn't need to shift.
Unlike "I regret that I put any trust in the President at all" John Kerry.
Or, for that matter, IWR/Patriot act voters Clinton and Edwards, or Iraq-war enabler/funder Obama.
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Mon Sep-03-07 07:18 PM
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17. And JE changed his mind |
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on Iraq just to run for president this time.
:)
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Mon Sep-03-07 05:17 PM
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3. His poll numbers are better in Iowa than Dodd's and the |
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IAFF endorsed Dodd.
Hopefully the Unions are better than that.
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Mon Sep-03-07 05:24 PM
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4. With attitudes like that Kucinich won't be the front runner because |
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those whose support he needs are denying it to him.
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Mon Sep-03-07 05:25 PM
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5. Do you have the link to this story? |
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I did read this somewhere today and forgot where I saw it, and ya left OUT a lot of stuff.
Sidebar: Why is it so frackin' hard for people to post resource links in their OP's ?
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Mon Sep-03-07 05:30 PM
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Mon Sep-03-07 06:01 PM
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12. Thanks, and since I'm a bottom line person..... |
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from your link's bottom line:
"They're all good candidates. But the key to what we should be about is winning the election in 2008."
:hi:
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Mon Sep-03-07 05:28 PM
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6. This is pathetic. If they prefered him, they'd endorse him. |
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Dodd is a long shot, and is one of three candidates in our party that has union support. Hell, Senator Dodd has more union endorsements than Barack Obama and Bill Richardson. One to zero!!
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Mon Sep-03-07 05:33 PM
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8. Who started this "unelectable" meme lie? |
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Isn't this just media hype?
I mean, to know that he's not electable, you'd have to hold the election. And if we already know he's unelectable, then we should know who is going to win. Why not just cancel the election and call the winner?
Damn, this is despicable.
And thanks for the post, because I was certain the unions wanted him by their wild applause during one of those last debates.
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Mon Sep-03-07 06:01 PM
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10. This is only time "electability" in the general is not an issue. Why keep saying it? |
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In Mo, several months before the election the democratic candidate suddenly dies in a plane crash...he was running against John Ashcroft. On election day the dead guy won overwhelmingly.
My point is that after Bush and with the present list of GOP yahoo jokes running for president, which ever Democrat who wins the nomination will be the next president. Even a dead guy because Bush's administration has been such a nightmare. If Kucinich won the democratic nomination he would be the next president. It's infuriating that everyone keeps saying he's the best candidate but because of this "electability" lie they won't nominate him. Electability philosophy has lost the Dems several elections. Electability almost got us vice president Lieberman. Dems need to just nominate the best candidate...period. Kucinich is the best candidate, imitated by the others, and always way ahead on the issues. There would be no better ticket than Kucinich/Edwards '08...the truth ticket.
It would be a real shame to pass over the best candidate for some political lie like "electability". Especially since it's not even an issue in this presidential election, where barring self destruction, whichever Democratic candidate we nominate will win the presidency. Why can't these "insightful" reporters see this. This is the safest presidential election for democrats in modern history. Isn't it time we get the best candidate for the job. After Bush...we deserve Kucinich.
Kucinich/Edwards '08... the truth ticket.
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Mon Sep-03-07 06:01 PM
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11. more people who stop short of supporting him... |
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because he doesn't have enough support.
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Mon Sep-03-07 06:04 PM
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13. The unions, and the citizens, need to do the same damned thing |
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they are calling on their reps in Congress to do. They need to grow a spine and do what's right.
They need to support the candidates with the best records of support for and representation of labor, or they are hypocrites.
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Mon Sep-03-07 06:42 PM
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16. As a Union man, I prefer Kucinich |
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But I need to see proof of what you are saying in your subject line. The professor's words may be true, but there has to be some sort of proof. Also, it sure would be nice if Kucinich had some sort of organization in Iowa. Anything at all.
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Mon Sep-03-07 07:19 PM
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18. Kucinich is loved by the Democratic base, |
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Edited on Mon Sep-03-07 07:20 PM by JDPriestly
but he does not speak the language of ordinary Americans. That is one reason that I back Edwards. Kucinich has good ideas, but he couches them in language that alienates a lot of people who are not politically sophisticated. Also, he does not have the ability to speak to the individuals in his audience one on one. He seems to always be talking to a crowd, exhorting a group. He is quite good at that, but it doesn't work well with the audience that has been raised on TV and movie close-ups.
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Tue Sep-04-07 06:17 AM
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19. "If electability wasn't a problem, Kucinich would be the front-runner." |
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:wtf:
I think this qualifies as the most asinine statement of the day.
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