How do we repeal NAFTA and the China trade agreements?

[Omaha Steve]

The Mexican trucks are now starting to show up in the US. We know many of the problems with China. What does it take to repeal this crap?

[jmp]

1. Senators, Representatives and a President ...

That work on behalf of the American people.

Good luck tracking enough of those down. :(

[jody]

2. Limit campaign contributions to $200 each from registered voters in a candidate's constituency. n/t

[robcon]

3. It would be tragic if we repealed those agreements.

Free trade is the best hope for economic growth for all, and peace in the world.

[FreakinDJ]

6. Sad - He really believes what he is saying

[pampango]

7. Sadly, I almost agree with him.

"Free trade" is a misnomer (kind of like "free lunch"), but I would agree that "trade is the best hope for economic growth for all, and peace in the world."

Isolating national economies from each other is not a path to peace and prosperity. The difficult trick is to promote fair, managed, balanced, reciprocal, pro-people, pro-worker, pro-consumer, pro-American, pro-Third World (pick your favorite term or terms) trade between countries, while avoiding such nonsensical concepts as "free trade."

[FreakinDJ]

12. Bull Shit - Free Trade = Exploited working class

You are just full of it today

If that was true then wages in Mexico would have gone up after NAFTA was implemented rather then the 20% DECREASE most workers in Mexico realized.

Nice to have such euphoric ideals but do you have a job

[pampango]

28. You lost me with that equation.

I just said that free trade was a nonsensical term and you then expect me to defend NAFTA?

Do you believe there can be trade with the Third World without any of the free trade bullshit?

[Romulox]

15. Sounds remarkably like what Communists say re: USSR and China

"Real communism wasn't a failure in China and the USSR! Real communism hasn't been tried out yet."

[robcon]

9. Yes, I really do.

Breaking barriers to trade is the single most important economic task of the early 21st century.

[area51]

11. Oh, please.

You'll say that until your own ass gets bit by your job being offshored. :eyes:

[FreakinDJ]

13. Exactly

Freaking making excuses for Hilary's Free Trade position

Lets import a few 1000 more Nurses from the Philippines - for those working in Health care whom have not been effected by the Free Trade Agreements. They well work for 20 - 30% LESS then these Free Trade Proponents

[pampango]

39. Do you believe there can be trade with the Third World without any of the free trade bullshit? n/t

[Elwood P Dowd]

26. Bullshit! NAFTA, GATT, WTO, CAFTA, etc. are not free trade

and you fucking know it RobConservative.

[HughBeaumont]

32. Hee hee . . . I was wondering what member of my Red X Toilet was posting.

Don't miss THAT guy one iota . . .

[Greyhound]

36. Just read the name,

then refuse to feed...

It will slink back into it's hole

[Bitwit1234]

4. Saw on CNN front page that a Mexican truck full of dynamite

blew up. It killed three reporters. I think it was heading out to deliver within the US> Now see how dangerous this truck rolling is. If a truck can't even be safe to pick up dangerous cargo within Mexico, what would happen on a long haul within the US>

[juajen]

24. I believe it was going to a mexico coal mine?

Correct me if I'm wrong. I believe I read that online. Just sayin'.

[antigop]

5. Vote for Kucinich. n/t

[illinoisprogressive]

8. We need to elect a president and congress that is against free trade.

[FreakinDJ]

14. At least 1 with some negotiating sense

Chine places a 25% tariff on our goods so we negotiate for 2.5%

Makes good sense to me !

Why should we allow those greedy corporate execs to go hungry

[EndElectoral]

10. Kuccinich has been against NAFTA since Day 1

[Ethelk2044]

16. All was part of NAFTA and part of the first Clinton Administration

[Kelly Rupert]

17. You can't. Sorry. That ship's sailed. n/t

[billyoc]

18. We have to keep the DLC/PPI/Third Way as far from public office as possible.

Let them fester in their Neo-Liberal think tanks, but keep them the hell out of my life. :grr:

[WA98296]

19. Back the ONLY candidate who says he will...Dennis Kucinich and never forget

that NAFTA was brought to us by a "democratic" president, Bill Clinton.

So, Hillary supports, go ask her how quickly she will repeal NAFTA.

[WA98296]

20. This is how Kucinich responds to HOW...

"In my first week in office, I will notify Mexico and Canada that the US is withdrawing from NAFTA. We need a president who knows what the right thing is to do the first time, not in retrospect. And I think that we need to go forward to trade that's based on workers' rights, human rights and environmental quality principles. No one else on this stage could give a direct answer because they don't intend to scrap NAFTA. We're going to be stuck with it -- Dennis Kucinich

[rinsd]

21. So Kucinich's answer is unilateral withdraw from treaties?

[goodhue]

23. That is how it is done--remember Bush withdrew from ABM treaty.

U.S. quits ABM treaty

December 14, 2001

Posted: 5:10 AM EST (1010 GMT)

By Manuel Perez-Rivas
CNN Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON (CNN) --President Bush said Thursday the United States has notified Russia that it intends to pull out of the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, starting a six-month timetable for withdrawal and opening the way for the creation of an anti-missile defense system.

"Today I am giving formal notice to Russia that the United States of America is withdrawing from this almost 30-year-old treaty," Bush said in the White House Rose Garden. "I have concluded the ABM treaty hinders our government's ability to develop ways to protect our people from future terrorist or rogue state missile attacks."

The announcement came after months of talks in which U.S. officials hoped to persuade Russia to set the treaty aside and negotiate a new strategic agreement. But a breakthrough did not materialize, and Bush decided to go ahead with a unilateral withdrawal.

* * *

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/12/13/rec.bush.abm/

[rinsd]

25. And what a wave of international love that little manuveur engendered

:eyes:

[goodhue]

27. The OP was looking for how to get out of NAFTA, not love

The way to get out of treaties is to withdraw, a power which the executive has unilaterally.
But they won't tell you that on the TV.

[goodhue]

22. NAFTA Chapter 22, Article 2205: Withdrawal

Article 2205: Withdrawal

A Party may withdraw from this Agreement six months after it provides written notice of withdrawal to the other Parties. If a Party withdraws, the Agreement shall remain in force for the remaining Parties.

http://www.sice.oas.org/Trade/NAFTA/chap-22.asp#A2205

[Greyhound]

37. Thank you. n/t

[Totally Committed]

29. Step 1: Stop electing Corporatists (from either Party)! Steps 2-10 will be a hell of a lot easier

then, if you know what I mean.... ;)

TC

[superkia]

33. Again, vote Kucinich if you want real change in America!

I believe he is the only one that has been speaking out about how our constitution is under attack and we are losing our freedoms which is VERY important to me. He has pointed directly at washington and the corruptness there, I don't understand why the others aren't taking a stand like him? HMMMM seems like these would be extremely important to everyones base, but I'm sure there is some reason?

Get out your rubber stamp and give Washington and the media who they want if you like but Im voting for change in this country because the typical politicians are destroying it!

[Totally Committed]

30. kick

:kick:

TC

[slipslidingaway]

31. Kick n/t

[jillan]

34. Make sure a Dem gets in the WH

All the Dem senators voted against CAFTA.

They learned.

[Greyhound]

38. Hmm, which candidate is it that has unequivocally stated that he will withdraw

from this loot-fest?






Oh yes,

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

35. step #1: Don't nominate the Clintons

step #2: nominate anyone else