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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 11:47 AM
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Huffingtonpost: Obama Warns Bush Over Iran War
Edited on Wed Sep-12-07 12:41 PM by flpoljunkie
Exclusive Speech Excerpt: Obama Warns Bush Over Iran War

Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) is set to deliver a "major policy speech" on Iraq today in Clinton, Iowa. Below, an excerpt of the speech obtained by the Huffington Post:

We hear eerie echoes of the run-up to the war in Iraq in the way that the President and Vice President talk about Iran. They conflate Iran and al Qaeda. They issue veiled threats. They suggest that the time for diplomacy and pressure is running out when we haven't even tried direct diplomacy. Well George Bush and Dick Cheney must hear - loud and clear - from the American people and the Congress: you don't have our support, and you don't have our authorization for another war.


More from the speech, titled "Turning the Page in Iraq":

"Conventional thinking in Washington lined up for war. The pundits judged the political winds to be blowing in the direction of the President. Despite - or perhaps because of how much experience they had in Washington, too many politicians feared looking weak and failed to ask hard questions. Too many took the President at his word instead of reading the intelligence for themselves. Congress gave the President the authority to go to war. Our only opportunity to stop the war was lost."

"There is something unreal about the debate that's taking place in Washington... The bar for success is so low that it is almost buried in the sand. The American people have had enough of the shifting spin. We've had enough of extended deadlines for benchmarks that go unmet. We've had enough of mounting costs in Iraq and missed opportunities around the world. We've had enough of a war that should never have been authorized and should never have been waged."

"I opposed this war from the beginning. I opposed the war in 2002. I opposed it in 2003. I opposed it in 2004. I opposed it in 2005. I opposed it in 2006. I introduced a plan in January to remove all of our combat brigades by next March. And I am here to say that we have to begin to end this war now."

"Let me be clear: there is no military solution in Iraq, and there never was. The best way to protect our security and to pressure Iraq's leaders to resolve their civil war is to immediately begin to remove our combat troops. Not in six months or one year - now. We should enter into talks with the Iraqi government to discuss the process of our drawdown. We must get out strategically and carefully, removing troops from secure areas first, and keeping troops in more volatile areas until later. But our drawdown should proceed at a steady pace of one or two brigades each month. If we start now, all of our combat brigades should be out of Iraq by the end of next year."

"Some argue that we should just replace Prime Minister Maliki. But that wouldn't solve the problem...The problems in Iraq are bigger than one man. Iraq needs a new Constitutional convention that would include representatives from all levels of Iraqi society - in and out of government. The United Nations should play a central role in convening and participating in this convention, which should not adjourn until a new accord on national reconciliation is reached."

"The President would have us believe there are two choices: keep all of our troops in Iraq or abandon these Iraqis. I reject this choice... It's time to form an international working group with the countries in the region, our European and Asian friends, and the United Nations.... We should up our share to at least $2 billion to support this effort; to expand access to social services for refugees in neighboring countries; and to ensure that Iraqis displaced inside their own country can find safe-haven. .... Iraqis must know that those who engage in mass violence will be brought to justice. We should lead in forming a commission at the U.N. to monitor and hold accountable perpetrators of war crimes within Iraq."

"I'm here today because it's not too late to come together as Americans. Because we're not going to be able to deal with the challenges that confront us until we end this war. What we can do is say that we will not be prisoners of uncertainty. That we reject the conventional thinking that led us into Iraq and that didn't ask hard questions until it was too late. What we can say is that we are ready for something new and something bold and something principled."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/09/12/exclusive-speech-excerpt_n_64115.html
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 11:48 AM
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1. Gobama!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 11:53 AM
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2. i`m waiting for vultures pick it clean
what really sucks- if i had money i would be on my way to see the speech..
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 11:57 AM
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4. Wonder if it's just a coincidence Obama will give the speech today in Clinton, Iowa.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 11:53 AM
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3. Obama needs to be our next president.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 12:00 PM
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5. Oh, yes, yes
We hear eerie echoes of the run-up to the war in Iraq in the way that the President and Vice President talk about Iran. They conflate Iran and al Qaeda. They issue veiled threats. They suggest that the time for diplomacy and pressure is running out when we haven't even tried direct diplomacy. Well George Bush and Dick Cheney must hear - loud and clear - from the American people and the Congress: you don't have our support, and you don't have our authorization for another war.



God bless Obama.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 12:04 PM
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6. Kick for Obama (nt)
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 12:06 PM
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7. Gobama.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 12:40 PM
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8. Excellent. Impressive. n/t
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 01:41 PM
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9. Woohoo
"Well George Bush and Dick Cheney must hear - loud and clear - from the American people and the Congress: you don't have our support, and you don't have our authorization for another war."
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 01:47 PM
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10. I'll ask the same questions I just asked on a thread praising Hillary...
Does this mean he's joining with those in Congress who are ready to impeach?

Is he in favor of keeping further funding bills from coming to the floor for a vote?


Strong words without action mean nothing ~ Senators Obama and Clinton need to lead NOW with their actions in Congress.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 01:52 PM
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11. Impeachment is too good for Bush/Cheney. Let them be tried in The Hague for war crimes and face the
Edited on Wed Sep-12-07 01:53 PM by flpoljunkie
entire world for what they have done.

Sadly, we do not have the votes to fund redeployment of our troops out of Iraq--a better way to defund the war. Will this be one of several bills that will be voted on in Congress? That, I do not know.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 02:02 PM
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14. We have to start with impeachment...
After that it's up to the courts.

Our only tool as far as Iraq goes is not to bring new funding bills to the floor for a vote, since deciding which bills are voted on is up to the Dem leadership. Republicans kept the paper trail bill from being voted on, which is why they got away with what went down in Ohio. Reps have no qualms about using their power ~ even if the purpose is to steal an election. For Dems to refuse to use the tools we have in order to stop a war is insane!
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 01:56 PM
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12. Let's vote for this man!
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 01:59 PM
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13. Very thoughtful speech. nm
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 02:52 PM
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15. Question for Reid and Pelosi -
If Bush and Cheney preemptively attack Iran, without Congressional authorization, will you move to Impeach either?

What do you think their answer would be? Me, I'm skeptical that they would.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 04:45 PM
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17. I'm starting to think Bush could nuke the whole world...
...and these do-nothing Dems would simply watch in wonder.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 04:43 PM
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16. Also addresses Saudi interference
"..keep neighbors from meddling, isolate al Qaeda, and support Iraq's unity. That means helping our Turkish and Kurdish friends reach an understanding. That means pressing Sunni states like Saudi Arabia to stop the flow of foreign fighters into Iraq, increase their financial support of reconstruction efforts, and encourage Iraqi Sunnis to reconcile with their fellow Iraqis. And that means turning the page on the Bush-Cheney policy of not talking to Syria and Iran."

This was a great speech. Everything I wanted to hear.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 04:52 PM
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18. Bush has never done the diplomacy required to fix the mess he has made in the Middle East.
And, one has to ask, why?
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 08:21 PM
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19. I'm glad Obama doesn't have Cheney's and Rumsfeld's experience, are you kidding?!!
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Terri S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 08:30 PM
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20. Here is a link to a transcript of the entire speech.
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Prince Paul Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 08:43 PM
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21. AIPAC wants war with Iran
Obama will do what they ask. Do a google search for Obama and AIPAC
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