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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 12:07 AM
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Ms. Clinton is my last pick among our candidates....
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 12:10 AM by catnhatnh
...and it matters not why. In a perfect world, I would like Mr. Kucinich as our choice but I fear he is as truly unelectable as some claim Ms. Clinton is. That said, I would physically cut my own throat before voting for ANY repub distraction, be he a TV actor or even an interesting kook like Mr. Paul....Were I to try to toss away my vote on a write-in or third party candidate I would hope my close friends would break my write-in/third party wrist...The Armegeddon these neo-con fundy fools have forced upon us is truly coming to a vote. I am a DEMOCRAT and I will crawl on my knees over broken glass while puking blood to vote for Ms. Clinton if she is our candidate...and you should too....

Edited for stupid spelling...
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 12:10 AM
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1. Almost everyone over here agrees with you, and by the way, Gobama.
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 12:16 AM
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2. Good luck with that.
I won't be voting for Mrs. Clinton.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 12:24 AM
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3. I hope I don't have to either....
...but not voting or voting otherwise would defeat everything we try for here...If she becomes our candidate. If you can't stand the idea of her being the candidate you must both support another, and do so without alienating those who support her.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 12:27 AM
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4. All she would get is my vote...
And it would feel like I'm crawling over broken glass to give it to her!

She would get it NOT because I like her, but because my disdain for the rethug party is so vast --- it would come down to an "anything but them" vote. So yes, I'm committed to the Dems and yes, HRC is also last on my list.

The sad thing is I'd work like like hell for Obama, ****Gore****, Edwards, Kucinich, or Clark. We're talking meet-ups, phone banks, county fairs - whatever!!! For HRC, I doubt I'd even put up a sign, but she would have my vote if she's our nominee. Thats it.

I'm still hoping the "base" will GET IT!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 12:33 AM
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5. Well, I'll definitely be puking
Not so sure about the voting for her...
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 12:51 AM
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6. Nah
Wouldn't even consider voting for Edwards, Clinton, Biden or Dodd.

They would cause more long term damage to the country and the party, due to their expected capitulations.

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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:09 AM
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7. I'll happily vote for a D.
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Steve_in_California Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:23 AM
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8. Biden can win and he deserves your consideration.
His timing couldn't be better: just as the Dems and GOP are at loggerheads over whether to fund the Iraq war and whether timetables must be part of the bill--along comes Joe Biden with a solution. He just introduced an amendment that calls for the adoption of his long-tenured proposal to separate the warring factions into three semi-autonomous regions under a decentralized federal system. There is simply no other viable option on the table. As journalist Jeff Greenfield noted, Iraqis are already adopting this plan on a de facto basis.

The Biden amendment has won wide endorsement and you can expect the Senate sinking deeper in to this quagmire to grab this life preserver of an amendment.

FORMER SECRETARIES OF STATE IN SUPPORT OF THE BIDEN-GELB PLAN:
Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright
Former Secretary of State James Baker
Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger

FOREIGN POLICY EXPERTS IN SUPPORT OF THE BIDEN-GELB PLAN:
Former Iraq Defense Minister Ali Allawi
Former UN Ambassador Richard Holbrooke
Ambassador Dennis Ross, Counselor and Ziegler Distinguished Fellow, The Washington Institute for Near East Policy
Ambassador Richard Haass, President Council on Foreign Relations
Michael O'Hanlon, Senior Fellow, The Brookings Institution
Yahia Said, Director, Iraq Revenue Watch
Ambassador Peter W. Galbraith
Dr. Ted Galen Carpenter, Vice President for Defense and Foreign Policy Studies, CATO Institute
Walter Russell Mead, Council on Foreign Relations
Anne Marie Slaughter, Dean of Woodrow Wilson School at Princeton University
Eric Leaver, Institute for Policy Studies Research Fellow
Juan Cole, Middle East scholar and prominent blogger
David Phillips, Council on Foreign Relations, author of Losing Iraq

PUBLIC OFFICIALS IN SUPPORT OF THE BIDEN-GELB PLAN:
Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY)
Bill Richardson, Governor of New Mexico (D)
Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS)
Former Congressman Harold Ford, Jr. (D-TN)
Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN)
Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX)
Muwaffaq al-Rubaie, National Security Advisor of Iraq
Congressman Chris Van Hollen
Iowa House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy
Iowa House Assistant Majority Leader John Whitaker
Iowa State Rep. Doris Kelley
Rep. Lisa Heddens of Ames (assistant majority leader, Iowa house)
Rep. Mike Reasoner of Creston (assistant majority leader, Iowa house)
Rep. Dick Taylor of Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Jack Carter, the son of former President Jimmy Carter, and Democratic candidate, Nevada
New Hampshire officials:
State Representative-Elect Jim Webber (D-Kensington)
Former State Representative Scott Green
Sanbornton Town Democratic Chair Andy Sanborn
State Rep. Bill Hatch (D-Gorham)
Rep. Stephen Shurtleff (D-Penacook)
Eileen Foley, who served for 16 years as Mayor of Portsmouth
Bob Preston of Hampton, a former Democratic Leader of the New Hampshire State Senate
Joseph Russell, former Secretary of the Stratham Democrats
Representative Michael Marsh (D-Greenland)
New Hampshire State Representative and Police Sergeant Mark Preston
Manchester Fire Commissioner and New Hampshire State Representative Robert Haley
Detective Steve Arnold, former President of the New Hampshire Police Association

Former Clinton White House Public Affairs Director Bob Weiner

EDITORIAL PAGES AND COLUMNISTS IN SUPPORT OF BIDEN-GELB:
Tony Blankley, Washington Times
Michael Hirsh,
Las Vegas Review-Journal, Editorial Board
Thomas L. Friedman, New York Times columnist
David Brooks, New York Times
Philadelphia Inquirer, Editorial Board
David Broder, Washington Post columnist
Jackson Diehl, Washington Post columnist
David Ignatius, Washington Post columnist
Bill O'Reilly, Fox News
George Packer, The New Yorker
Portland Press Herald (ME) editorial board
Delaware News Journal editorial board
The Barre Montpelier Times Argus (VT) editorial board
St. Louis Post-Dispatch editorial board
The Journal Standard (IL) editorial board
Marilou Johanek, Toledo Blade (OH) columnist

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:27 AM
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9. I'll be on call
Anybody need an ear tweaked or a head thunked on election day, just let me know. :rofl:

I can't understand anyone risking all of us to four more years of this insanity.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:47 AM
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10. Agreed -- that is how I see it, too n/t
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:54 AM
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11. Agreed
I will vote for any Dem in the general, but in the primary my vote goes to DK.

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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 09:39 AM
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12. Bill Clinton was my no. 3 pick in 1992.
And he turned out to be one of the best. presidents. ever.

I'll vote for the candidate with the big D after her/his name.

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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 10:23 AM
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13. We didn't know Bill. We know Hillary. And, Hillary is no Bill.
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demommom Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:04 PM
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14. I second that!!
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5fingersurfer Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:31 PM
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15. Not quite
While I will agree that ol Bill was better than a lot, I can't count him as the best ever. The main reasons being, Bill's and Al Gore's backing of NAFTA and WTO. Everything they said about these agreements turned out wrong and these agreements and those like them need to be terminated at once. That is the main reason that DK is getting my vote in the primaries this year. He is the only candidate who has said he would get the US out of those agreements his first week in office if elected. One of the few things that the POTUS can do without any approval needed from any other branch of government.

If you really want an eye opener, see if youtube has the vp debates from the 92 campaign. The debate with Perot against NAFTA, WTO and Gore for those trade agreements show just how wrong Gore was. HE basically said that anyone against the agreement(s) was an idiot.
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:34 PM
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16. we can do better than HC
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concerned citizen23 Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:48 PM
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17. Why vote for any of the leading candidates?
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