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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:30 PM
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Poll question: Did Hillary Clinton Demonstrate Political Courage By Voting Against Cesuring The Move On Ad ?
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 02:43 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:31 PM
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1. Of course she did.
I can't wait to hear the responses on who she's trying to pander to now.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:33 PM
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6. How long before we see a post that says Hillary was a coward for voting no...
And that Obama was the courageous one for not voting....
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:15 PM
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17. And there it is...
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:30 PM
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19. Amazing, isn't it?
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 04:30 PM by William769
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:33 PM
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7. I Would Like The Nos To Explain Themself
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 02:36 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
I wasn't a big fan of the ad but censuring public interest groups is not the Senate's business ...

It also sets a dangerous precedent; hopefully this precedent will come back to bite the GOOPERS in the ass...
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:34 PM
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8. Good luck with that one.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:31 PM
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2. political calculation - yes
courage - no
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:31 PM
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3. Oh, wonderful! Another Betrayus thread! Such insight will be displayed here!!
:sarcasm:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:32 PM
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4. the cynic in me thinks it's a safe bet that by November 08 no one will give a damn about it
But who knows... maybe she just voted her heart.
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Pyrzqxgl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:41 PM
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22. By Tomorrow no one will give a damn about it.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:33 PM
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5. Absolutely. Although it was common sense to vote 'no'
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:34 PM
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9. no
this issue is too meaningless to use words like courage.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:39 PM
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10. Agree. This was a stupid amendment.
We should be attacking those that voted YES, not praising those that voted NO.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:40 PM
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13. Or Those That Didn't Vote
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:40 PM
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11. Yes she did.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:40 PM
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12. Yes. Particularly because the thing was worded in such a way...

... that anyone voting 'no' is going to get the usual GOP poo flung at them: "Oh, so you SUPPORT personal attacks on General Petraeus? You SUPPORT attacks on our soldiers?"

The usual shit, but someone's got to stand up and say, "Fuck off, you're not fooling anyone with this crap."

I'm glad HRC was among those who did.


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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:42 PM
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14. Me Too...
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 02:42 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
I didn't like the ad... I think it crossed the line but it's not up to the Senate to cenure public interest groups...
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:57 PM
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15. Yes of course she did.
Good for her. Not my first choice, but I'm warming up to her everyone time she steps up and does the right thing.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:02 PM
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16. Yes.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:20 PM
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18. Definitely
Especially since she's been attacked specifically about this ad, because she didn't condemn it. This was her chance to do so, and she stood up.

Remember, Hillary knows, more than most, about the right wing machine and what words can do. So yes, this ultimately benefits her. So what? She did the right thing.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:31 PM
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20. Some courage and I am proud of her for it.
Just let's not get carried away.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:45 PM
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21. One could well argue that Hillary never misses a chance to pander to a particular constituency
The constituency in this case being MoveOn.org.
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:44 PM
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23. it wsa a stupid vote to begin with
Obama was the only one with the good sense to call it what it is.
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:47 PM
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24. She played right into the repugs hands
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:51 PM
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25. I'm no HRC supporter for sure....
... but she did the right thing. If it were a political calculation, she would have voted FOR it.
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