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Tue Sep-25-07 12:40 AM
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Fighting the power of Iowa and New Hampshire? |
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at least supposedly, this is what Florida Democrats have been saying to the network news.
Clinton did not win either in 1992 so one has to question the "power" of these two states.
And with so few delegates and electoral votes I think that Floridians are just being difficult.
No, what we need is to get a pledge from all the candidates to stick around for at least the end of February. With so many primaries moving to the head of the lines, they should be able to do so since they will not be able to campaign in all of them.
And for 2008 - get rid of the system.
Either move to rotating regional or other mode of groupings, or select the ones that start with the smallest states and move to the larger ones.
Whatever happened to CityVote from the 90s?
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Tue Sep-25-07 12:46 AM
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1. I am sure that Iowa will give us another gem of a winner, like they did in 2004 |
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"I'm an ethanol man!"
-- George W. Bush Iowa, 2000
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Tue Sep-25-07 01:14 AM
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2. On The Other Hand, Look What Happened Last Time We Let FLORIDA Decide an Election |
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Tue Sep-25-07 02:21 AM
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3. Iowa and New Hampshire are 2 of the least diverse states |
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in the country. Racially, Ethnically, Economically, Educationally, Culturally they are probably the least representative states you could pick.
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Tue Sep-25-07 06:07 AM
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4. Yeah, but it's not only Iowa and NH in the early line up |
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it's also S.C. and Nevada. And I think there's a lot to be said for NH and Iowa. No NH and you'd never have a Carter or Clinton again. I like the setup as it is now with the addition of Nevada and SC.
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Tue Sep-25-07 07:00 AM
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5. And both of those gentlemen ended up costing the Democratic Party dearly. |
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Carter gave us twelve years of Reagan and Bush.
Clinton gave us (so far) eight years of Bush II.
Maybe we need a new nominating process?
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Tue Sep-25-07 01:42 PM
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7. It was Paul Tsongas who won NH |
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and Clinton became the "comeback kid" after Super Tuesday of which Florida was a player.
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Tue Sep-25-07 01:41 PM
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6. Which is why it is more of humoring them |
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than letting them set the nominees. At least, candidates should state from the beginning that they are staying beyond them.
I think this is why CityVote came in the 90s, to have parallel votes in cities with major diverse populations. I don't know what happened to it.
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Tue Sep-25-07 02:32 PM
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8. I don't know how your could try to say they're not powerful. |
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In 1992, clinton, and all other democrats, didn't even compete in the Iowa caucus due to Tom Harkin's running, essentially draining the power of the caucuses. Also, NH wasn't as big as it is in this cycle with tsongas being from a neighboring state.
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