Edwards WON! Consensus of MSNBC commentators.

[chimpymustgo]

Of course, Pat Buchanan had to give it to Hillary because she didn't lose. But everyone said Edwards BROUGHT it. Obama was off his game.

[Nutmegger]

1. Edwards showed true leadership and integrity.

He did great. :kick:

[Colobo]

2. Obama off his game?

[chimpymustgo]

4. That was their consensus - even brought up his having a cold.

He fell back on his slogans WAY too much. I agree that he has performed much better in other debates.

[PollM]

3. Democratic Candidates Debate at Dartmouth College

Who do you believe won the New Hampshire Democratic Presidential Debate? -------> http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=597

[zulchzulu]

5. Obama certainly did as well or better than Edwards ferchrissakes...

Point to me where Obama was "off his game"...

If anything, a lot was revealed about Clinton and not much of it was good. I don't think anyone "won".

[mantis]

7. I'm an edwards guy

I'm an edwards guy but I thought Obama did fine...not really sure what they are talking about to be honest.

[Ethelk2044]

6. they are full of shit

[flpoljunkie]

39. Buchanan's meme: "Hillary wins because she did not lose." This was, in fact, her worse debate.

[illinoisprogressive]

8. Pat B is a clinton shill. Edwards and Biden did wll. Obama was sick with a bad cold.

[Dawgs]

9. And you agree with them? They say the same shit after each debate; and they're always wrong.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

10. I thought Edwards did quite well tonight ...

Clinton and Obama seemed less on-point.

[ChiciB1]

11. Go, Johnny, Go!! But Hillary Has Some Strings She Pulls.... SOOOOOO

tomorrow, it's back to the SOS!!!

It's EDWARDS!

[liberalmuse]

12. Any Dodd people here?

He may as well be invisible, even on my radar. That is kind of disturbing. He pretty much said all the right things. I have to examine this.

[goodgd_yall]

37. I've always liked him. I'm warming up to him.

I don't know why he's dimissed as he is.

[jsamuel]

13. He did win tonight.

He had several strong moments where he took Clinton on and won.

[jillan]

14. Matthews was praising Biden tonite.

[Sparkly]

15. They sound to me like they decided what to say before the debate!

Tweety is positively fixated on taking swipes at Hillary tonight.

[IndianaJones]

16. Edwards looked good. nt.

[Mass]

17. Obama did well also. Biden too.

[Ninga]

18. I like Edwards questioning why social security tax stops at $97,000...it's that kind

of thinking that has been gone from this country for so long.

[madrchsod]

19. what game show was he on?

[FlaxieB]

20. It doesn't matter. Edwards is 3d place until he bows out of the race.

[Ninga]

22. Nothing is for sure, and this is not over by a long shot.....stay tuned.

[1932]

28. Bill Clinton was in 4th place at this point in '91

[ElizabethDC]

21. So, the MSNBC commentators are correct when they say Edwards won

but whenever they say Hillary won something, everyone just brushes it off and says it's because Hillary has the evil MSM wrapped around her finger?

[Hieronymus]

23. Yes, Edwards won.

[Cameron27]

24. I didn't think any of them won,

but Biden came closest.

[Maribelle]

25. Edwards did great tonight ...

and he handled the moderator well.

He was really passionate about what he and Elizabeth have been doing for the poor. He hit it out of the park on Social Security.

I did not like the tone of the moderator at all.

[AtomicKitten]

26. I thought the pile-on on Hillary for voting for the pre-Iran War Resolution vote

was pretty awesome and she deserved it

[Tom Joad]

32. she is reveling in the money she will be getting because of the vote, that was probably just

might as well have been an advertisement for her.

Hope i'm wrong, but doubt it.

[AtomicKitten]

33. and the thought of that made me throw up in my mouth

I am thrilled Obama had the opportunity to clarify (he is ill and not on his game tonight) his plan for withdrawal and that he will immediately start removing the troops 1 to 2 brigades a month until they're out, but that he would cease all combat missions immediately. Whew.

Obama on permanent bases:

Q. And the (military) bases.

OBAMA: I've been very clear we should not have permanent bases in Iraq.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2007-07-17-obama-interview_N.htm

[Catchawave]

27. Some reviews are already in:

Salon.com’s Joan Walsh Said Edwards “Made a Strong Impression” and Named Edwards the Winner of the Debate. Chris Matthews posed the question, “Who won tonight’s debate?” and Salon.com’s Walsh responded, “I think Edwards made a strong impression and I think he pushed her back, he brushed her back a little bit. So I would go with Edwards.”

NBC's Chuck Todd: “Edwards Stood Out to Me,” “It Was One of His Better Performances.” “Of the candidates chasing Clinton, Edwards stood out to me. He seemed to realize he needed to prove contrast with Clinton on just about every answer he gave. It was one of his better performances. The guy is getting his William Jennings Bryan schtick down pat.” <http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/09/26/381964.aspx, “Some Quick Post-game Take-aways,” 9/26/07>

Newsweek’s Howard Fineman: “Edwards Has Emerged So Far the Most Forceful Challenger To” Clinton. “From where I sit, Edwards has emerged so far the most forceful challenger to her (other than Tim Russert).” <http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2007/09/26/fineman-debate-live-blog.aspx, 9/26/07>

Marc Ambinder: “Victory for JRE,” “Edwards Was Straightforward, Confident, Clear.” Edwards was Edwards on Centrum Silver: straightforward, confident, clear, knowledgeable, thoroughly encased in his own frame. Ying to the yang of both Obama and Clinton; If you’re new to nomination politics, then you’d think Edwards – and not Obama – was Hillary Clinton’s main foil. The war. Social Security. Health care. Campaign ethics. Clinton didn't take the punch, but she did move to dodge them, which is a victory for JRE. <http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/09/edwards_clinton_spats_stand_ou.php, “Edwards, Clinton Spats Sound Out,” 9/26/07>

ABC’s Rick Klein: “Edwards May Have Done Himself the Most Good Tonight.” “11:02 pm: Quick thoughts -- Hillary Clinton benefits whenever no one else distinguishes himself, and Edwards may have done himself the most good tonight. Obama squeezed in one good line, but I don't see that as enough for the evening.” <http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/09/live-blogging-d.html, 9/26/07>

NBC's Domenico Montanaro: Edwards Was “More Presidential” and “Looked Poised.” “Edwards looked poised in following up on his answer. Not angry or frustrated as we've seen him before, more presidential.” <http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/09/26/381656.aspx, “Edwards Pointing Out Differences,” 9/26/07>

Newsweek’s Howard Fineman: “Edwards Then Hits It out of the Park,” “Wins the Round” on Social Security. “Edwards then hits it out of the park, talking about a ‘protective zone’ of income between $97,500 and $200,000. His proposals sounded carefully thought through—whether you agree with it or not—and was much more specific than what Obama had to say on the topic. Hillary is talking too much about what her ‘husband’ did; she isn't being specific enough—Edwards wins the round.” <http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2007/09/26/fineman-debate-live-blog.aspx, 9/26/07>


NBC’s Athena Jones: Edwards Gets a “Whoop” for Promising to End Health Insurance for Congress if No Universal Health Care. “A whoop here for Edwards' promise to cut off health insurance coverage for members of Congress if they don't pass health care by July 2009.”<http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/09/26/381762.aspx, “Edwards health care reaction,” 9/26/07>

ABC’s Rick Klein: “Edwards Is the First to Draw Real Distinctions About” on Iraq. “9:07 pm: I'm ready to give the Big Three credit for intellectual honesty by saying troops will have to remain in Iraq for some years. But John Edwards is the first to draw real distinctions about what to do going forward. This won't be the last time he finds a way to set himself apart.” <http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/09/live-blogging-d.html, 9/26/07>

NBC's Domenico Montanaro: “Edwards Is Pressing the Distinctions with Clinton.” “Edwards is pressing the distinctions with Clinton. He said they had learned different things on their war vote and said this Iran vote was indicative of that. Will it matter? Edwards clearly wants to put her on the defensive. So far, he's the only one.” <http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/09/26/381710.aspx, “Edwards Pressing,” 9/26/07>

NBC’s Chuck Todd: “Edwards Seems on His Game Tonight.” “It's VERY early but Edwards seems on his game tonight.” <http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/09/26/381655.aspx, “Edwards Came To Debate With A Plan?” 9/26/07>

ABC’s Rick Klein: “I'd Give Edwards a Slight Edge in Making His Points and Making Them Solidly.”10:05 pm: “But I'd give Edwards a slight edge in making his points and making them solidly.” <http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/09/live-blogging-d.html, 9/26/07>

ABC’s Rick Klein: Edwards “Distinguished” Himself. “9:33 pm: One-fourth of the way in, Edwards and Richardson have distinguished themselves. If people were looking for a new, more aggressive Obama tonight, it doesn't look like they're going to get it.” <http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/09/live-blogging-d.html, 9/26/07>

Chris Matthew Said Edwards Came with a “Clear Strategy” to Differentiate Himself from Hillary Clinton. Chris Matthews said, “Senator John Edwards was one who came out with a clear strategy to differentiate himself from Hillary Clinton on the issue of combat troops in Iraq and U.S. military action potentially against Iran.”

h/t to a friend :)

[Think82]

29. BIDEN WON THE MEDIA SUCKS

but Chris Matthews was great, he's basically endorsing the guy!

[Tom Joad]

30. It don't matter. Hillary won big, big bucks today, by voting to escalate tension with Iran.

those lobbies that love war will send money her way. she knows that she is doing.

Money wins, people lose.

[Clark2008]

31. Too bad he's a shit.

I really, really hate him. Lying SOB.

[laureloak]

44. I smell sour grapes.

Edwards was greatt!!!!

[Steve_in_California]

34. Edwards was impressive

But, then again, he didn't just fly to New Hampshire after spending all day in the Senate turning the tide in this god-forsaken war! Biden won even before he opened his mouth. Why? Biden delivered the only thing the American people want and demand: RESULTS!

Only Joe Biden's statesmanship could have brought together with 49 Senate Democrats 26 of the staunchest Republicans in the Senate, including minority leader Mitch McConnell.

It wasa great day for the party and an even greater day for the Nation as a whole.

[goodgd_yall]

35. I don't agree

I think Biden and Dodd were winners this time.

[Froward69]

38. I Do Too Biden need your help

Donate here

https://secure.ga3.org/03/joebiden/nQ7sOhb71wepo?

[Honeycombe8]

36. Poor Obama. He had a bad night. Someone said he was ill. n/t

[Mudoria]

40. Too bad Edwards probably can't win his home state....

[laureloak]

45. But then again, NC loves him. Too bad its a red state. n/t

[SaveElmer]

41. Why is the MSM trying to shove Edwards down our throats...

They are clearly in the pocket of the Edwards campaign...damn shills!!! Edwards probably bought off MSNBC with his earning from his job at the hedge fund!

Hey this is kinda fun!

[polichick]

42. I don't care what the commentators said...

John Edwards did a great job last night imo!

[Dawgs]

43. When did we start caring what the MSNBC pundits think?

[Greenwood]

46. Edwards can't win general election...

With his lavish lifestyle he would be cut to pieces. Remember the $400.00 haircuts? The mansion?

The average working man will not go for that. Slowly, over time, he would be brutalized.

Listen, I like Edwards and would vote for him. But, I just want to freakin' win the election.

[slick8790]

47. And who, pray tell, can do that?

[saracat]

50. Really? That is not what GE polling indicates.Edwards is the strongest against the GOP!

[Eurobabe]

48. I thought Biden was better than Edwards n/t

[Think82]

49. Matthews liked Biden -- LINK below:

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=cecbba4f-fc95-4a88-a5b9-1d32f7f23f08