OBAMA FIGHTS BACK AT BILL CLINTON EXPERIENCE JAB

[babylonsister]

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/09/29/387282.aspx

OBAMA FIGHTS BACK AT BILL CLINTON EXPERIENCE JAB

From NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan
CONCORD, N.H. -- Sen. Barack Obama may still shy away from directly attacking Sen. Hillary Clinton by name, but in Concord today, he referenced her husband to distinguish his experience from those who have spent too many years in Washington.

"I remember what was said years ago by a candidate running for President." He said, “The same old experience is not relevant. You can have the right kind of experience and the wrong kind of experience."

"Well that candidate was Bill Clinton. And I think he was absolutely right."

Obama toughened his lines on why "playing the game in Washington" was detrimental, tying those who taut their beltway credentials to the deaths of thousands of American troops in iraq.

"There are those who say we they can play the game in washington. Well we shouldn't be playing a game when young men and women are dying in the battlefields of iraq," Obama told the crowd. "We don't need the kind of experience that leads people into war."

His speech stressed his years as a consensus builder in the Illinois state senate and his role in helping pass ethics reform in Washington. Once again he would not refer to Sen. Clinton by name, but positioned himself as someone who was free of the special interest influence that could impede the passage of major legislative reforms.

[msongs]

1. instead of being a backstabber, just come out and say it. gives you credibility nt

[jefferson_dem]

3. Who is the backstabber?

Obama's simply responding to the Big Dawg's hollow attacks on Obama's supposed lack of experience...the sort of experience he said didn't matter in 1992.

[blm]

5. Maybe Obama just isn't that experienced a backstabber - TeamClinton can show him how

it's done.

Easy to do when some of your team is also inside the Bush WH.


http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

[RaleighNCDUer]

15. Now that's funny.

Obama did NOT reference Hillary. The writer of the article did. Obama refered to the 'wrong kind of beltway experience' and you, like the one who wrote the article, ASSUMED he was referencing Hillary.

Now why is that?

[jefferson_dem]

2. Obama's right. "Slick Willie's" "shill game" is getting old...

In the 1992 clip, The Big Dawg practically endorses Obama's candidacy of today --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMlrSG1xb5k

[trumad]

6. Slick Willie

Nice repub talking point...

[jefferson_dem]

8. I know. Couldn't resist. Just this once...

Sometimes talking points reflect reality. Deal with it.

[Lost4words]

9. the Clinton's enabled all we have today, B&H are not friends of the people.

friends to corporate America maybe but not the working class.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. I Wish It Would Stop

I wish people wouldn't use right wing talking points to insult any of our candidates and that includes "The Breck Girl" "Osama Obama", Hitlery, Shrillary, "the Clenis", "Clintoon, etcetera...

We're better than that...

Hey, are the Dolphins "killing" you yet? They are "killing" me... Maybe the Heat will be more succesful...

[trumad]

35. That's cause they're nothing more than trolls...

and yes---the Phins continue to kill me. :-)

[ariesgem]

22. Obama should use that clip in a campaign ad with an OBAMA 08 caption

[tammywammy]

4. That's a good way to attack

Props to Obama.

[Catchawave]

7. Doesn't Governor trump State Legislator ?

That is when it comes to experience :shrug:

With all due respect to Barack, George was a Governor. I rest my case :)

[jefferson_dem]

10. George was a governor? As in the current Chimp-in-Chief?

Doesn't that kind of support Obama's case here?

[Catchawave]

27. No.

While I think he may not be ready for Pres., maybe for VP, I think he's better than Dan Quayle at this point for VP.

[sandnsea]

11. Yeah, George was a Governor

As was Bill, Ronnie and Jimmy. Maybe we should go back to Senators.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

13. I'd vote for Obama if he were a dogcatcher right now

He's the right person for the job. Period.

[Catchawave]

26. Like Biden, Hillary and Dodd ?

Even Kuch would make a better President than we have now.

[Nedsdag]

33. Hillary saying she has experience

is a slap in the face to Biden, Dodd and Kucinich who all trump her in that department.

I hope one of them takes her to task about that.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

12. Wes Clark has never held a single elected office.

Yet strangely, I never heard the experience thing used against him like it is with Obama. I don't recall Bill Clinton coming out to make that point about him either.

[Catchawave]

29. Neither did Colin Powell for 2000, and he would have

been a shoe in for the GOP nod that year, but dropped out. Wonder what the difference was between him and Clark in 2004? And did Clark cut a deal with Hillary for the endorsement? We'll see, if she wins the general election.

I often think Eisenhower in the 50's, but I think he was a university president for a few years between his war hero and US Pres. gigs?

[BeyondGeography]

14. It's too easy, Bill...you're not one of the cool kids anymore

but you were once. As for borrowing your 1992 rhetoric, there's lots more where that came from.

Many thanks.

[jefferson_dem]

17. Bill's like one of those old guys with a mullet and earing who thinks he's (still) cool...

tossing around words like "awesome" and "sweet"...still has the roach clips hanging from the rear view mirror on his 1988 IROC-Z.

Time to hang it up, Big Dawg. You're done.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. I Don't Think Clinton Ever Had A Mullet...

I also think he's as au courant as any of his peers....

[ncabot22]

28. That image is now burned into my brain

:) Thanks.

[Tellurian]

19. Obama fighting back?

Community Organizer v Big Dog? :rofl:

[Forkboy]

20. Another mismatch

[Guaranteed]

21. Not only experience that has led us into war, but is STILL leading us into

war, five years later.

Yeah, Sen. Clinton- I'm really impressed with your "leadership" skills. You should be President. :eyes:

[emilyg]

23. Thanks. I hope she is President.

[Guaranteed]

24. Why?

Why in the hell would you hope that?

We didn't even SEE her at all from 2002 up until she announced she was running- and when we did it was so that she could express support for Bush's policies and put distance between herself and supporters of the correct positions. She hid from the media and gave us no support at all. She couldn't even throw us a bone every once in awhile. Even today, instead of proposing something that would actually fix our broken healthcare system, she's proposing simply throwing taxpayer money at the corrupted private insurance corporations who are bleeding us dry.

After years of do-nothing "leadership" and hiding, now she's stepping into the limelight and expecting to be crowned our nominee.

Why on Earth would you want her to be our President?

[emilyg]

31. I think New York saw her. What do you mean hiding?

[illinoisprogressive]

25. stupid Bill cannot help opening his big mouth and Obama took it and hit back

[Clintonista2]

44. Obama can never, ever compete with "stupid Bill"

They just aren't on the same level. Bill has so much more ability.

[MethuenProgressive]

30. OP should read: OBAMA FIGHTS BACK with BILL CLINTON EXPERIENCE quote

At least then it'd be accurate.
But then, that wouldn't sound so dramatic, would it?
:eyes:

[Colobo]

32. Obama outmaneuvers Bill.

[2rth2pwr]

34. WOW! That Obama, he's one hell of a fighter. nt

[Ethelk2044]

38. I like it when he can use someone's own words against them in a video.

:woohoo:

[democratsin08]

36. obama is a liar

free of special interest money? has he refused all union money? all environmental money? every candidate is bought and paid for by special interests, democrat and repuke. i also condemn obama for once again launching hate filled attacks against the clintons. hillary is above the politics of personal destruction.

[Ethelk2044]

37. Hillary is the politics of destructions she was the very person who tried to attack Obama

when she realized that he would attack back, she started whining. Obama is correct. Bill was on the same level as Obama. The words came out of Clinton's on mouth about his experience. It is on youtube where he was stating he had little experience in a debate. They were attacking. Get your FACTS straight before trying to smear. Hillary has been trying to attack and attack Obama. However nothing is sticking.

[madmom]

39. but he won't vote on anything, how do we know where he stand? talk is cheap

[Ethelk2044]

40. that is bullshit. Obama had a better voting record in the Senate before he started running for

President. Also, He had a good voting record in the Illinois state senate.

[madmom]

42. so he can't do two things at once or what?

[democratsin08]

41. obama seems cowardly

will he be able to stand up against repukes?

[Imagevision]

43. Watching/listening to Bill Clinton is like watching the same movie over again and

again and again and again...