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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:46 PM
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33 points my ASS
The media is now telling us Hillary is 33 points ahead of Obama BULLSHIT. Its interesting the timing of this poll when two days ago Newsweek came out with a poll saying Obama was leading Clinton and Edwards in Iowa.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:47 PM
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1. She didn't win the eprimary the Texas Dems put on
I think the media is lying.
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:48 PM
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2. There are Democrats in Texas?
I am shocked. I thought I was the only one.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:14 PM
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30. Jim Carville had the best line about Democrats in Texas
When he was addressing a group of us in Dallas, he said
that when he was invited to address a group of Texas
Democrats, he thought he was going to be giving his
speech inside a phone booth.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:49 PM
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3. I do not believe it either.
nor do I believe Rass or others when Bush seems to have 30+ %. If he polls (honestly) at 20%, I would almost be able to believe that. 1 out of 5 is about right according to the bell curve. that one being on the far left of the IQ curve, up to and including more than one standard deviation below average.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:11 PM
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12. oh well then, that tells you alot....
that she didnt win an eprimary

(keep grasping at straws!)
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:16 PM
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36. As long as the straws are factual
I'll consider them.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:50 PM
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4. It is fascinating the way the polling differs nationally as opposed -
to state by state where it is definitely a horse race.

Hillary has the advantage of name recognition. Obama not so much which is why he's pounding the campaign trail.

I'm beginning to believe anything can happen and that inevitability is nothing more than a word assigned to a campaign. We shall see.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:05 PM
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8. It's A Horse Race In Iowa
Edited on Wed Oct-03-07 05:06 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
I haven't seen one other state where it's a horse race...If you have polls indicating it's a horse race in other states please post them...
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:16 PM
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15. I believe both Obama & Edwards are subscribing to the domino theory:
One state at a time, the difference is Obama is better-financed. The polls are vacillating quite a bit now and it is that volatility that makes me think anything can happen. In other words, I think it would premature to stick a fork in anyone's campaign just yet.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:19 PM
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17. I'm Not Calling The Primaries Yet
But I did see a poll where Edwards is trailing Hillary by twenty or so points; in North Carolina!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:23 PM
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18. that's gotta hurt
Hang in there. I still believe anything can happen.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:26 PM
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I Don't Have A Dog In This Fight
I just call it as I see it as I see it...

Right now Clinton is in the catbird's seat...
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:51 PM
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5. You are comparing apples and oranges.
The WaPO ABC poll is a national heat with an MOE of 4. The Newsweek poll was for IA & a 7 pt MOE.

"Its interesting the timing of this poll when two days ago Newsweek came out with a poll saying Obama was leading Clinton and Edwards in Iowa."

Interesting that the Newsweek poll came out right out before Obama kicked off a major Iowa campainging tour.

Naaaah the foil on the helmet just rubs my skin wrong. I will keep it off ;-)
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:00 PM
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6. Gee does your mommy think "cold and cocky" is a good thing now?
:rofl:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:03 PM
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7. You'll Get Over It Biggie
eom
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:07 PM
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9. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:11 PM
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11. ...
"Its interesting the timing of this poll when two days ago Newsweek came out with a poll saying Obama was leading Clinton and Edwards in Iowa."

Interesting that the Newsweek poll came out right out before Obama kicked off a major Iowa campaign tour.

Naaaah the foil on the helmet just rubs my skin wrong. I will keep it off ;-)
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:09 PM
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10. I would be pissed too
if I was an Obama supporter. Although I wouldn't get into the conspiracy crap I have seen trying to explain it away.

Obama is not making any traction and instead Hillary is expanding her lead. Obama has 3 months to improve, otherwise it is goodnight to his campaign. It is not looking good, not at all.
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:14 PM
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13. As always the media is trying to push Hillary. However smart people knows otherwise.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:17 PM
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16. Whatever Makes You Feel Better
We all have our own defense mechanisms...
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:31 PM
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20. Evil, evil media! Reporting what's going on! Damn them!
Damn them to hell!

:sarcasm:
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:15 PM
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14. That jumped out at me also....It doesn't compute in my world....
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:26 PM
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19. Now I know why Obama supporters are going crazy on this forum
jealous as hell. Edwards is going to take it wait and see.
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Red Zelda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:40 PM
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21. M$M can fuck themselves
No one has a lead. WHEN will we start going after these media bastards??? And I don't mean writing letters.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:51 PM
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22. The Clinton Media Machine
There is one, it's real. Ask yourself, again, whether it's true that the Dems can't get a message out - or whether the Clintons didn't want an anti-war, Bush lied, message to get out.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:10 PM
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29. This Is A Statement I Would BET REAL Money On!!! n/t
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:54 PM
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23. President Hillary Clinton.
:hide:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:54 PM
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24. and how many polled are Republicans knowing they can beat Hillary?
No one on the left wants her, look at the poll done here on DU earlier today she was like 4th or 5th down the line.

Repukes will crossover in open-primary states and vote for her because they know whoever gets the GOP nomination will win easily.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:59 PM
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27. That's Why She Thumping Her GOOPER Opponents In All The Published Polls
Edited on Wed Oct-03-07 06:00 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm


She's running for president of the United States not DU...


You need to find a new meme... Your old meme is hackneyed and cliched...
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:02 PM
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28. Um she is beating every GOPer head to head.
She has a massive war chest. Polling has her flipping quite a few red states.

And this is while the GOP can't seem to get out of each other's way.

"Repukes will crossover in open-primary states and vote for her because they know whoever gets the GOP nomination will win easily."

So GOP voters en mass will forgo voting for their own nominee to help Hillary secure the Dem nomination?

You were better off insinuating a DU poll as vaild.

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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:57 PM
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25. My poll says Obama is 33 ahead of HRC
I bet you believe that even though I have no
such poll :rofl:
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:58 PM
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26. I'm afraid I value the judgement of professional pollsters more than that of your ass.
Denying the obvious is foolish. For better or for worse, at present Hillary Clinton has massively more popular support than either Obama or Edwards.

Clinton's victory in February is not inevitable, but I'd want damn long odds to bet against it.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:15 PM
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31. what`s really cool about all this is by the time
i get to vote it will be already decided! so won`t have to worry about making a decision because these first few states will decide who is the winner.is`t life grand when one has freedom from choice". good thing there`s politicians and issues to vote for otherwise i`d stay home....
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:14 PM
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32. There's a poll in today's Minneapolis Star Tribune that gives her a big lead in Minnesota but
I didn't see anything in the article that asked the people being polled how likely they are to drag themselves out to their precinct caucus on a cold February night.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:18 PM
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33. And yet you'll believe the polls that Shrubnuts has a 33% approval rating.
n/t
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:19 PM
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34. No, I think that's too high too.
No way, 33%.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:21 PM
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35. Oh brother...
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democratsin08 Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:13 PM
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37. INCREDIBLE NEWS
the hillary express is in full battle mode!!
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