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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 01:29 PM Original message |
Biden and Dodd attend debate in Waterloo, Iowa - Kucinich a no show |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. He must have no organization in the state, and figures "Eh, fuck it" |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I think you might have a point |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. He could have been like Clinton, Edwards, Gravel, Obama and Richardson |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
67. what was the reason for no-showing |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I am not aware that a reason was given. n/t |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
83. Wasn't this the guy who was bellyaching because he wasn't invited to a debate in Iowa and |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. Biden/Dodd, Dodd/Biden....Either way works for me...Cool team. n/t |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. It was an enjoyable evening - and great to actually hear the two of them talk |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
72. You were there? That's my hometown! I haven't been back since last H.S. reunion. |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. I like them both too, but honestly, as horrible as it sounds... |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Perhaps we shouldn't choose our candidates by the color of their skin |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Perhaps we should look at some of the reasons we lost last time |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Yeah b/c we know we can't elect those damn New Englanders to the Presidency |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 11:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. Do you dispute that there was a fair amount of people who didn't even give Kerry a chance |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 07:39 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. I think it's silly to exclude a person as a presidential choice because of |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. So, are there any other skin colors or areas on the map we should use to disqualify? |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 11:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Yes, I do think some of those people will. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 12:16 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. "these same people"....frankly, I don't think you know what the hell you're talking about |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 07:46 AM Response to Reply #43 |
53. Because the Family Mecial Leave Act was just fluff? |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. Dodd is from New England, but Biden isn't |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 11:13 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. Yeah, I was too vague in my post. I really just meant Dodd. |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 12:30 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Yeah, Dodd isn't too appealing |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
41. I think part of the slam against Kerry was "rich:". Biden isn't rich by a long |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 12:40 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Also his speaking style came across as aloof to some |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #48 |
57. Opposite here - Tastes come in all types! |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. This is true |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. Chasing caucus bodies in Iowa so necessary and yet just so |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Manners matter anywhere |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Vomitting on another person's leg is considered bad form... |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. What are you talking about? n/t |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I agree, It was disrespectful to his supporters. If he had a good reason, there's been plenty |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Some haven't a clue what happened and will suspend judgement |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Well, gee, if you know, tell us. |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 07:54 AM Response to Reply #14 |
54. Your apparently are allowed you to see inside people's minds |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Are you drinking? Your subject line makes no sense. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. When the space to hold an event was offered a return call was promised |
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bluedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. they say he did it also in Ohio debates......... |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Odd behavior since he just complained about NOT being invited to events |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
80. I seem to remember there was quite a bit of Iowa bashing about that... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. That's just wrong. It's as though he, or his "people" are treating the whole exercise as a joke. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Where can one verify this information? I do not remember |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Only the word of the folks that organized the event and said Kucinich had confirmed |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
71. Appreciate the reply and just wondering if anyone knows the |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. You actually want me to call the campaign back and ask them why they didn't call me back? |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 07:59 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. I would be willing to call, especially if someone from the |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. I don't quite understand why you asked, it almost seems like you don't believe me |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. It's hard to call a campaign office and say that someone, having |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 10:36 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Please PM me your email address |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Sent you a PM...thanks n/t |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
30. Especially in Iowa |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. I can only speak for myself |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. I kinda figured as much |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 07:42 AM Response to Reply #40 |
52. The Kucinich is just bizarre this time around. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. It's very personal, those caucuses. Not like other states where it's all about big venues and tv |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I wish more states had caucuses like Iowa |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 07:22 AM Response to Reply #39 |
50. We'd need election cycles lasting five years, in that case. |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #50 |
64. You are right |
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Think82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. Biden's plan gets a Shiite Iraqi leader's support from NYT: |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
12. Too bad. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I'd like to hear it. n/t |
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bluedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
13. did Dennis congratulate Al Gore yet? n/t |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
22. Point is, Biden and Dodd are two classy guys with whom integrity still matters |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
26. Mr. Kucinich Marches To The Beat Of His Own Drummer |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. That's for sure |
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Froward69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
32. Is There any Video of the event? |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Don't know.... |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. That would really be cool! |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #35 |
56. See post #55 n/t |
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Froward69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. T/Y |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #38 |
55. Seek and ye shall find! |
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dugggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
45. Biden = most knowlegeable on foreign policy matters |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 12:49 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. He's been working on it for a long time |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
58. Good from Biden and Dodd. Bad move from Kucinich if he did not have an excuse. |
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mrigirl (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. We Biden supporters do not belittle or attack anyone's character who is running! |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Do you think my post was an attack on Kucinich? |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Sorry. No, I did not want to be more specific, but I think the attack on Dodd as |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Actually most of us really like Chris Dodd |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. Thanks for the clarification |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. You won't hear any criticism of Dodd from this Bidenite. |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Sadly, he could have saved face on this |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #58 |
82. I haven't seen any of that from the Biden/Dodd people... |
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murbley40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
78. Biden and Dodd ,... |
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kad7777 (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. I agree |
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