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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:26 PM
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Tweety says Clinton's running mate would need to be
'a big, beefy, ruddy, regular guy...'

What IS it with him?!? Definitely some sort of complex around masculinity. :shrug:
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:28 PM
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1. Tor Johnson!
Edited on Fri Oct-19-07 04:29 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:30 PM
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2. If he means there should be a contrast between P and VP
then she should go the other way and get a running mate who is antiwar and anticorporation.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:31 PM
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3. How about this guy?
Edited on Fri Oct-19-07 04:33 PM by Hydra
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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:41 PM
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10. LOL
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:32 PM
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4. "Big,beefy,ruddy"--yikes. Homoerotic longings at their most obvious.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:36 PM
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5. Chef Boyardee! n/t
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:38 PM
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6. That could be me!!
I'm big, a little beefy, kinda ruddy, and very regular, nothing spectacular about me at all. I officially volunteer.:patriot:
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:38 PM
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7. Is it because he is a wimp.
Should we have a contest to find the largest fightingest guy going to be Hillary's running mate, if she gets nominated that is.

Boy if she does that will be a good thing to lighten up the race.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:39 PM
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8. The media is picking our nominee, may as well pick the
running mate.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:40 PM
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9. I'm curious, did they throw any "beefy, ruddy" names around?
Who's a "regular guy" in today's national politics that would be suitable for a Dem VP pick? Richardson?
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:44 PM
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12. Yes at the time he was talking to the Governor of PA. Edward Rendell
and Matthews wanted to throw the Governor's hat in the ring
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:47 PM
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15. You're right...
He did think Rendell fit the bill.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:50 PM
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16. Oh my God. You're not serious (speaking as a native Pennsylvanian).
That voice alone would drive me fucking crazy. And isn't he pretty dang old? And she's going to win PA probably anyway.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:53 PM
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17. Dead serious and he lapped up the idea when Chris threw it out there
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:56 PM
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18. Ick. I would hope Hillary wouldn't consider someone so obnoxious.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:46 PM
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14. No, but...
he first suggested Evan Bayh would be a good pick, then said she'd need a beefy etc. guy rather than "some skinny guy from the midwest." (Not necessarily exact quotes.)
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:43 PM
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11. Should the guy also smell like Old Spice, like Fred Thompson?
Or should he wear a codpiece stuffed with old socks and strut across a flight deck as he declares his mission to be accomplished?



http://mediamatters.org/items/200604270005

Thu, Apr 27, 2006 12:45pm ET

Mission Accomplished: A look back at the media's fawning coverage of Bush's premature declaration of victory in Iraq

On May 1, 2003, President Bush landed on the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln aboard an S-3B Viking jet, emerged from the aircraft in full flight gear, and proceeded to "press[] flesh," as The Washington Post put it, as he shook hands and hugged crew members in front of the cameras. Later that day, Bush delivered a nationally televised speech from the deck of the Abraham Lincoln in which he declared that "ajor combat operations in Iraq have ended," all the while standing under a banner reading: "Mission Accomplished." Despite lingering questions over the continued violence in Iraq, the failure to locate weapons of mass destruction, and the whereabouts of Saddam Hussein, as well as evidence that Bush may have shirked his responsibilities in the Texas Air National Guard (TANG) during the Vietnam War, the print and televised media fawned over Bush's "grand entrance" and the image of Bush as the "jet pilot" and the "Fighter Dog."

Chief among the cheerleaders was MSNBC's Chris Matthews. On the May 1, 2003, edition of Hardball, Matthews was joined in his effusive praise of Bush by right-wing pundit Ann Coulter and "Democrat" Pat Caddell. Former U.S. Rep. Robert K. Dornan (R-CA) also appeared on the program.:

MATTHEWS: What's the importance of the president's amazing display of leadership tonight?

MATTHEWS: What do you make of the actual visual that people will see on TV and probably, as you know, as well as I, will remember a lot longer than words spoken tonight? And that's the president looking very much like a jet, you know, a high-flying jet star. A guy who is a jet pilot. Has been in the past when he was younger, obviously. What does that image mean to the American people, a guy who can actually get into a supersonic plane and actually fly in an unpressurized cabin like an actual jet pilot?

MATTHEWS: Do you think this role, and I want to talk politically <...>, the president deserves everything he's doing tonight in terms of his leadership. He won the war. He was an effective commander. Everybody recognizes that, I believe, except a few critics. Do you think he is defining the office of the presidency, at least for this time, as basically that of commander in chief? That <...> if you're going to run against him, you'd better be ready to take away from him.

MATTHEWS: Let me ask you, Bob Dornan, you were a congressman all those years. Here's a president who's really nonverbal. He's like Eisenhower. He looks great in a military uniform. He looks great in that cowboy costume he wears when he goes West. I remember him standing at that fence with Colin Powell. Was the best picture in the 2000 campaign?

MATTHEWS: Ann Coulter, you're the first to speak tonight on the buzz. The president's performance tonight, redolent of the best of Reagan -- what do you think?

COULTER: It's stunning. It's amazing. I think it's huge. I mean, he's landing on a boat at 150 miles per hour. It's tremendous. It's hard to imagine any Democrat being able to do that. And it doesn't matter if Democrats try to ridicule it. It's stunning, and it speaks for itself.

MATTHEWS: Pat Caddell, the president's performance tonight on television, his arrival on ship?

CADDELL: Well, first of all, Chris, the -- I think that -- you know, I was -- when I first heard about it, I was kind of annoyed. It sounded like the kind of PR stunt that Bill Clinton would pull. But and then I saw it. And you know, there's a real -- there's a real affection between him and the troops.

MATTHEWS: The president there -- look at this guy! We're watching him. He looks like he flew the plane. He only flew it as a passenger, but he's flown --

CADDELL: He looks like a fighter pilot.

MATTHEWS: He looks for real. What is it about the commander in chief role, the hat that he does wear, that makes him -- I mean, he seems like -- he didn't fight in a war, but he looks like he does.

CADDELL: Yes. It's a -- I don't know. You know, it's an internal thing. I don't know if you can put it into words. <...> You can see it with him and the troops, the ease with which he talks to them. I was amazed by that, frankly, because as I said, I was originally appalled, particularly when I heard he was going in an F-18. But -- on there -- but the -- but you know, that was --

MATTHEWS: Look at this guy!

CADDELL: -- was hard not to be moved by their reaction to him and his reaction to them and --

MATTHEWS: You know, Ann --

CADDELL: -- you know, they -- it's a quality. It's an innate quality. It's a real quality.

MATTHEWS: I know. I think you're right.

Later that day, on MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann, Matthews said:

MATTHEWS: We're proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who's physical, who's not a complicated guy like Clinton or even like Dukakis or Mondale, all those guys, McGovern. They want a guy who's president. Women like a guy who's president. Check it out. The women like this war. I think we like having a hero as our president. It's simple. We're not like the Brits. We don't want an indoor prime minister type, or the Danes or the Dutch or the Italians, or a Putin. Can you imagine Putin getting elected here? We want a guy as president.

On the May 7, 2003, edition of Hardball, Matthews asked former Nixon administration official G. Gordon Liddy what he thought of the response to Bush's landing on the Abraham Lincoln. Looking at the footage, Liddy commented that Bush's flight suit made "the best of his manly characteristic." From the May 7 Hardball:

MATTHEWS: What do you make of this broadside against the USS Abraham Lincoln and its chief visitor last week?

LIDDY: Well, I -- in the first place, I think it's envy. I mean, after all, Al Gore had to go get some woman to tell him how to be a man. And here comes George Bush. You know, he's in his flight suit, he's striding across the deck, and he's wearing his parachute harness, you know -- and I've worn those because I parachute -- and it makes the best of his manly characteristic. You go run those -- run that stuff again of him walking across there with the parachute. He has just won every woman's vote in the United States of America. You know, all those women who say size doesn't count -- they're all liars. Check that out. I hope the Democrats keep ratting on him and all of this stuff so that they keep showing that tape.

MATTHEWS: You know, it's funny. I shouldn't talk about ratings. I don't always pay attention to them, but last night was a riot because, at the very time Henry Waxman was on -- and I do respect him on legislative issues -- he was on blasting away, and these pictures were showing last night, and everybody's tuning in to see these pictures again.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:46 PM
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13. "ruddy" = White,
Fuck you, Tweety.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:56 PM
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19. He needs therapy.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 05:06 PM
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20. So her running mate has to be Bill? nt
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