Question On Hillary: Will The Assumption Of "Inevitability" Hurt Her Campaign?

[Dinger]

Since Clark dropped out, I am seriously weighing my options. He endorsed her, but that doesn't make it automatic for me. Currently, I am re-reading her book, trying to get a better idea of where she is coming from. I saw an opening skit on SNL last night, and they played this "inevitability" thing up pretty good. If, and I mean if, she is our candidate, I think this could hurt her. Do Hillary supporters have any thoughts on this, or are they feeling it is a done deal?
This is a sincere question on my part. I'm on the fence, I really am, and I will take all replies into account as I attempt to switch from "undecided" to "supporter of . . . " Please help me.

[Evergreen Emerald]

1. whose assumption?

The media? The republicans? The anti-clinton crowd?

I think criticism in any form can hurt someone.

[Dinger]

8. Any Of Those

Yes, the media, and yes the repuglicans, who are both, to verying degrees, part of nthe anti-Hillay crowd IMO.

[Evergreen Emerald]

18. I agree with the other posters

this is a media straw-man. They are creating a story--the mighty falling. It is so hard to avoid all the lies and twists and distortions. It is hard to know who has an agenda and who does not.

Unfortunately the masses still believe in the media (and they are trying hard to define themselves as non-biased as they spew the right-wing talking points).

I think what will hurt most, is the continued bombardment of anti-Clinton lies. In the media and even on DU.

[Dinger]

20. It Would Be So Nice To Have A REAL Election *Sigh*

I hate being played.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

2. It is far more effective than the alternative

Exuding an air of inevitably never harms a candidate, sports team or cause.

The only downside is that you might believe your own hype

Best to act like you can't lose, but work like you are in second place. Clinton seems to be doing that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. The Strawman The MSM Is Setting Up Might Hurt Her

She has never said she was inevitable...The further ahead you are the harder you should work and that's what she's doing...

[incapsulated]

4. Well, sure but...

Remember this is media spin. They like to build people up and then knock them down.

However, statistically, no one has had this large a lead at this point and lost.

Then again, anything can change.

I kinda doubt it, though.

I'm an old Clarkie myself and I'm not actively supporting anyone, this time. In addition I live in Hillary country so the primaries don't mean much.

I think we can win with any of the front runners, frankly.

[gateley]

5. I've heard her say she's not taking anything for granted. Apparently the MSM

isn't as wise.

[MethuenProgressive]

6. It makes a fun skit on SNL, and gives fodder to those already against her...

They've created an issue to complain about.
Don't bite on the hype.

[NoodleyAppendage]

7. Hillary's high negatives should negate your support and lend it to a different candidate.

Our nation simply must not come under another 4 years of Repuke/Neocon rule, which means that ANY Democratic candidate with high negatives should be taken out of consideration. No other Democratic candidate will energize the Repuke base more than Hillary. Repukes will turn out to vote, not for their candidate, but against her. Since our nation is close to 50/50, any high negatives in our candidates work against our 2008 chances.

I like Hillary, but our nation and this party simply cannot take the chance during this environment of high world tension. Do you really want Rudy at the helm with his back-bench of Neocons? Rudy fairs best against Hillary, but safely loses in polls to Obama and Edwards. This is the important calculus that should guide your choice of candidate support.

J

[durrrty libby]

11. Her negatives have gone down and Edwards and Obama's have risen

[NoodleyAppendage]

23. Keep on convincing yourself that this "was" right when the Repukes take 2008. n/t

J

[durrrty libby]

24. I'm not a chickenshit like so many wimps around here

[slick8790]

9. As much as it shouldn't, I think it has a chance to.

If in nothing but the Iowa caucuses. From what I understand the caucus is fairly time consuming, and it's possible that many people who are "soft" supporters of hillary might not even bother to "waste their time" if they look at her poll numbers and think she has it in the bag anyway. But I don't know how true that is, it's just an idea I had.

It could also help her in the same way, "soft" obama and edwards supporters could get discouraged and decide not to go out and caucus if their candidate seems like they don't have a chance.

So, basically, I have no idea :).

[Yael]

10. Everytime I hear that she has been coronated, it is like fingernails on the chalkboard

In a democracy, we should be able to VOTE, not have our candidates selected FOR us by those with the deep pockets to purchase the media. Like John Edwards says, this is an ELECTION, not an AUCTION. The more I am told to swallow the inevitability meme, the more I want to prove them wrong and am willing to work my tail off to do so.

I may be a lone ranger on this, but I have a feeling that others feel the same, that the process is being taken from us.

Not good.

[Froward69]

14. ok kemosabe

I am right there with ya. just call me Tonto.

The hype and machine mentality really makes me cringe also. America needs a straight shooter. no bullsh**!!! someone who is not bought... Like vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

[Yael]

15. And I would be pleased as punch to support Biden

He's a straight shooter. Good choice. :thumbsup:

[Froward69]

17. Welcome aboard!!!

[adadem]

21. Exactly!

[cuke]

12. Yes

Americans hate a winner

[OKNancy]

13. I was a Clark supporter too.

I liked him very much, but also, since I like to win... I felt really good about my primary vote for him in my state. As I looked at every one of them I decided that he had the best chance to win my STATE in the general election. People need to remember the electoral college!

He did win my state primary and if he had won the nomination, I bet he would have had a chance here.

If I use that same logic for this election, I can't see Obama winning my state at all.
So it's down to Edwards and Hillary. I like both of them. I think with her momentum though, she might do well here especially if Rudi is the Republican. I don't think Okies like Rudi very much.
They don't like Hillary either but there is a slim chance she could do well. ( probably red no matter how I vote... lol )

[Sparkly]

16. I think it could

Candidates never want high expectations like that. It makes the candidate and their campaign seem arrogant, it makes others attractive as underdogs/alternatives, and it makes anything that is NOT a tremendous success into a tremendous loss.

[durrrty libby]

19. How about when people say that Edwards numbers are so low

that he doesn't have a prayer's chance in hell, or

that Obama's approval numbers have been stagnant or sinking?

Will that dissuade people from voting for them?

I mean they are obvious losers, so why bother?


People don't like feeling that their vote is being thrown away

[DURHAM D]

22. Yes - it is designed by corporate media to do exactly that.

They have set her up so they can bring her down - it will be good for ratings (the media wants a close fight for the next eleven months to increase viewership) and good for the boys of corporate media cause it makes them feel dominant - on top - they can "show that uppity bitch who is in charge" - who is the king (queen) maker. In other words, a gender battle is good for ratings and will become more and more a part of the media script.

Obama and Edwards are both using the inevitability thing to attack her. They did not start it but they are using it.

The end result will be that her numbers come back toward their numbers. It will be very effective.

[CreekDog]

25. It's all the anti-Hillary folks that are calling her "inevitable"

I'm not hearing it from the Hillary side.

You people are not useless at all --you are very, very useful

to the Republicans.