Catherine Vincent
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Sun Oct-21-07 10:52 PM
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Obama and Clinton supporters will need to do some serious making up. |
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It will either be Clinton/O'Bama 2008 or O'Bama/Clinton 2008. and I know O'Bama said he isn't running for Vice President but a lot can happen between now and then.
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Sun Oct-21-07 10:53 PM
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1. Just wondering, cat_girl25, why do you write his name "O'Bama"? He's not |
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Sun Oct-21-07 10:57 PM
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4. I know he spelled it that way on St Pat's day. It was rather endearing, actually! nt |
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Sun Oct-21-07 10:59 PM
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5. It is cute for St. Patrick's Day. NT |
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Sun Oct-21-07 10:55 PM
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2. Possibly Clinton/Obama, but Obama/Clinton would never work. |
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And I almost don't want to see Obama as VP--would rather see him become Gov of Illinois or stay in the Senate working on his "chops" for 2012 or 2016. VP is NOT a sure ticket to becoming Prez, as we all have seen.
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Sun Oct-21-07 10:55 PM
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3. We'll unite after the nominees are determined. |
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This in-fighting is like a right of passage...happens every time. Last week, I linked to a few threads from during the 2004 nomination season. Holy shit. Now that was some division...we haven't matched. There's still time...and things will get hotter.
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Sun Oct-21-07 11:10 PM
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6. Obama needs to stay in the Senate and get some seasoning. Try again in 8 years.nt |
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Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 11:11 PM by oasis
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Mon Oct-22-07 09:37 AM
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What is he a turkey?
You grab it while the iron is hot.
If he waits eight years, he'll have to deal with Martin O'Malley, Deval Patrick and/or another "Obama-type" we don't know about. He won't be new or fresh anymore.
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:27 AM
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25. VP of the U.S is not a position where most Americans would want an "on-the-job-trainee". |
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Nope, not in today's turbulent world.
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:39 AM
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29. While true, that's silly. |
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I mean...the VP doesn't actually do anything, other than give speeches, cast tiebreakers, and wait for the President to die.
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:43 AM
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30. "One heartbeat away" from being the leader of the free world.(eom) |
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Mon Oct-22-07 02:10 AM
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7. I can't recall any candidates ever making up. |
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I mean, they all pose together in a unity picture at the end of the convention, they all make vows to support the Presidential candidate...and they are never heard of again. They don't get posts in the Administration, and they don't speak in support of the candidate on the campaign trail.
So no. There will be nobody making up. Clinton or Obama or Colbert or whoever ends up being the candidate will smile, and their competitors will grumble and curse under their breaths like Miss America losers. Welcome to reality, people.
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:07 AM
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Reagan & Bush, and Kerry & Edwards made up just fine.
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Mon Oct-22-07 09:19 PM
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37. But all those were Party Arrangements. |
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And all for the good of the ticket, in that fictional "balance" thing the party leadership always attempts. Kennedy got Johnson to gain the Southern vote, and Reagan got Bush for the Northeastern (and frankly the Rich Guy) appeal of the party.
What I was talking about were all the losing candidates. For instance, if Clinton won the nomination and the election (yeah, right) she wouldn't appoint Obama to the Supreme Court, or Kerry to the State Department, or Kucinich to head up HEW. Those guys would sit outside the government, or in the remainder of their Senate/House terms, and steam and fume, and try to find a way to depose Clinton in the next election. They wouldn't work for her, and she wouldn't ask them.
If all these opponents were "good people," as claimed in those unity statements, it would make sense, but I can never remember any winning candidates proposing such posts to their former blood enemies.
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Mon Oct-22-07 09:37 PM
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39. Kerry/edwards - about 3 years ago? |
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Mon Oct-22-07 02:16 AM
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8. i disagree that they will pick the other for vp |
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Mon Oct-22-07 09:57 AM
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10. What amuses me about the two camps hammering away at each other... |
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...is that the two candidates aren't even that different from one another.It's like arguing over which is better, 1% milk or 2% milk.
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Mon Oct-22-07 09:57 AM
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11. I don't see it happening. |
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There are very few that support Obama here that I would care to associate with in public. After the nominee is chosen, they will all go on ignore with some of the shit posted thus far, I don't care for anything they have to say after the nominee is picked. I do have a few friends that support Obama out of our little world on DU and we get along just fine. But some of the things hat have been said here, I am not a forgiving person on some things.
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:08 AM
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16. Right back atcha. n/t |
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Mon Oct-22-07 09:59 AM
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12. i dont see obama/clinton occuring. if hrc wins i hope she picks edwards for vp. |
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:05 AM
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13. That would be a awesome ticket! |
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:08 AM
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but given obama's recent activities and his constrant evocation of the lord, i am tired of him.
which is said, because when he spoke at the DNC i was in tears. he was that inspiring.
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:08 AM
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17. Edwards was already picked once |
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and didn't add anything. He didn't add a single state.
And he's said he didn't much like being the VP candidate.
Edwards will not be anybody's VP choice.
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:16 AM
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18. "Edwards will not be anybody's VP choice." |
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I would beg to differ with that comment. If he were to get the nomination, I would also say Hillary would do great as a VP.
I have no trouble voting for either one, no matter how that ticket looked.
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:20 AM
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19. Why would he accept it? |
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He didn't like it last time.
Why would someone pick him? He didn't help last time.
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:24 AM
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20. Reason #1, it's only a heartbeat away from the Presidency. |
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If he didn't like it last time, why did he take it? How do you figure he didn't help last time?
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:27 AM
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his home state, usually a key consideration in choosing a VP candidate. He was chosen to balance Kerry's New England roots. It didn't help - Kerry didn't win a single southern state.
Last time, he hadn't yet BEEN a VP candidate. He accepted it, didn't much like it, by his own account.
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:29 AM
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26. people dont vote for vice president |
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As much appeal Edwards has in the south and the midwest, there was no way voters were basing their decision on the vice presidential candidate. It was ultimately Senator Kerry's responsibility to go fight for votes in those areas, which unfortuanately he neglected to do during his campaign. As a result those areas wrote him off, believing the media's and republican's lies about him. Simply relaying on the swing states to go in our favor was not a successful strategy. As Howard Dean says if you want to win win you got to show up everywhere.
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:25 AM
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21. I think Edwards is going to surprise a lot of people once Iowa's said and done. n/t |
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:27 AM
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22. i would be perfectly happy if edwards wins. |
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if edwards wins though i wonder if he will pick hrc as a running mate. probably not.
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:45 AM
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I think many will be shocked.
Edwards 2008! :bounce::party::bounce:
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:37 AM
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The primary reason a VP candidate is chosen is to balance the ticket. Edwards failed to bring Kerry a single Southern state--not even his home state. Given his polling, and given 2004, it's pretty obvious that he is not exactly popular where he claims to be. I'd much rather see Clark or Richardson.
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:27 AM
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23. We're not that important; the important thing is the candidates |
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and the good news is they appear to like each other about as much as we do. :P
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:35 AM
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27. If the Clark and Dean folks were able to kiss and make up, |
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I'm sure the Clintonistas and Obamites can as well.
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Mon Oct-22-07 11:06 AM
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33. and Kerry & Dean folks. Dean was an enthusiastic Kerry supporter, that came a long way. |
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Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 11:11 AM by Justitia
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Mon Oct-22-07 10:46 AM
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32. I love all Hillarites, and they know it. |
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Mon Oct-22-07 09:20 PM
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How have you been, man? :)
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Mon Oct-22-07 11:09 AM
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I didn't know he's Irish?
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Mon Oct-22-07 01:44 PM
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36. He's a little Irish on his momma's side. :) |
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