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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 11:47 AM Original message |
Obama supporters :has the Obama / gospel singer issue caused you to rethink your support of him? |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
1. Why don't you ask this as a poll? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'd like to have more information than what is out there |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
3. Why should it? I do not condone this gospel singer, but |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
4. Here's a quote off one of the blogs. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
5. Obama is not my top choice |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
6. No, Because Obama's views have not changed. He does not |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
7. Yeah, some random singer |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Donnie was at a recent event with Husband Bill on 9/15/07 |
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katsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Link? |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I think she's referring to Andrew Young's birthday party |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Just more disinformation coming from a Obama supporter. |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. It is not disinformation. You are stating Guilt by Association. When Hillary should divorce Bill |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. How low can you sink? That's on par with "Jim Webb lives in the same state as Pat Robertson!" |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. All I have to do is let her dig her own hole. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
77. No, you're right |
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katsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. No wonder a link wasn't included. |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Did not have to drive him. He should have turned down the event knowing Donnie was there. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
35. Wow. Lots of people at that event. |
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Sandaasu (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
40. That is disappointing |
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Sandaasu (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
9. It most certainly has |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Edwards Supporter trying to Dog Obama. You never was an Oama Supporter |
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Sandaasu (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Absolutely wrong |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
56. She has a way with words that Ethel. |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
121. And you never was... |
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Moloch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
10. Yes. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. you are conflating Obama with McClurkin |
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Moloch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
122. As a former supporter of Obama's.. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
30. Why? How is Obama different today than yesterday? |
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Sandaasu (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Because now it's questionable |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
111. Don't let the door hit you on the ass |
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daninthemoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
17. I like Kucinich, but this issue has no effect on my opinion of Obama, |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
19. Trying to link Obama with some singer to trash the campaign is intellectually dishonest |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Smoking pot = endosing Bush's war on homosexuality at the pug convention. |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
24. No what difference does this make...remember we still have a free country |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Obama? nt. |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
25. Michelle's "It's Just a Dream" speech awhile back was a signal for Obamians to |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
28. Are you fucking kidding me? |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. What do you mean by "it's part of the reason I like him?" |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. He likes Homophobes I assume... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. And i've seen some vicious attacks on Obama supporters by those |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. See, that's the problem... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. You're wrong. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Irrational my ass, I hate bigots, period... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Which is absolutely no worse... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Let's see... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. You cannot honestly say that... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. I agree that... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. The problem is HOW they defend Obama, not that they defend him at all... |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
63. I'm confused. Show me where someone is being a homophobe. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Look at post 52. n/t |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
32. faux outrage: McClurkin is mainly known for his popular gospel hits |
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Sandaasu (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. "reformed ex-homosexual" |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Faux Outrage my fucking ass!!!! |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. His views would be dangerous if people were listening to them |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Apparently he's well known enough to be in an Obama sponsored event... |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #39 |
53. He's well known as a gospel singer, not as a homophobe |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. And that makes it even more important to expose him and denigrate him for what he is... |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. "reformed"? |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
58. REFORMED ?? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
82. "REFORMED"? |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #82 |
101. well that's what he calls himself |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
33. No. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
41. No. |
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Grandrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
49. Absolutely Not! |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Watch out. |
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Grandrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. No problem..... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. There's something really distasteful about the way some are trying to |
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Rhythm and Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. So you're...more supportive of including a homophobe in the campaign? |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #51 |
64. I think they are more supportive because of the hateful nature of other candidates supporters. |
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Rhythm and Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. While I understand the motivation, |
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Grandrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
65. A like in 1....homophobe is the key! |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. But why McCloset? |
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Grandrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Give me strength...... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Uhm, that's quite muddled, to put it simply, I don't give a fuck about that... |
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Grandrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #75 |
86. Do not rant and rave at me! |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Oh, like you are so fucking innocent here, who the fuck is "playing dumb" now? |
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Sandaasu (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. Oh, so money is more important than LGBT folk |
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Grandrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #79 |
96. No ....you are deliberately misunderstanding! |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. I think he understood just fine thank you very much... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #73 |
85. Better to play dumb than be dumb. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. I think its obvious by now that some people here on DU just don't care about GLBT folks at all... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Money & votes are more important than actual people. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. Thank you. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but important to recognize. |
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Grandrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #85 |
104. You are so right...I should never have replied to your post! |
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Tejanocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
54. This is bad, but it isn't as bad as a whole career's worth of triangulation. |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
61. In Comparison to Clinton's Iraq War Support? |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
66. No |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
68. Obama supporters |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Exactly, yet instead we see many of them showing insensitivity towards homosexuals instead. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. So far I've only seen a couple do that. |
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Sandaasu (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. Indeed |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. McCloset advocates for the TORTURE of teenagers to "fix" them of their homosexuality... |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Obama doesn't support McClurkin's views...so NO!! |
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Sandaasu (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Then why not give him the boot? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. So does that make Obama Religious or an Ant-religious Atheist? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Oh yeah, Mr. "The anti-religion atheist 'types'" don't matter. nt |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #81 |
88. What the hell are you talking about? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. I did read, your OP in that other thread is offensive to religious people who AREN'T homophobes... |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Well don't twist my words and say I said things I didn't |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #93 |
102. I didn't see ANY broadbrushes against religious people until some Obama defenders brought it up... |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. He's mad that religious people can't be anti-gay, as it's their personal belief. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. I know, actually had a Christian from yesterday practically say that homophobia is a necessary... |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Then why is he touring with him? |
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rogue emissary (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. He isn't touring with the guy. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. Ah, just sponsoring the tour then? |
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rogue emissary (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. The guy is known for being a gospel singer and it's a gospel tour. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Oh, so as long as he sings pretty his personal views don't count? |
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rogue emissary (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #100 |
105. They do and the event hasn't even occurred. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. edited |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #89 |
115. Seriously, you'd think the guy was his running mate the way these people are going on. nt |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #78 |
103. Then why invite him to sing? |
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rogue emissary (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #103 |
109. When did Obama defend the decision? |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #109 |
116. Not talking about Obama - all the DU Obamans that are.. |
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rogue emissary (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #116 |
120. I'm sure there are some who are blindly defending him. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #68 |
113. No, Obama supporters (and others) should contact the campaign to find out what happened |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #113 |
117. I've called, and e-mailed. |
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rogue emissary (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #113 |
119. Exactly, I had no clue about who and what this guy has said . . |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
97. No. |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
110. no. you will never agree 100 percent with anyone. it's stupid to be reactionary on one thing. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Yeah, George Wallace would have been a great President. It's stupid to be reactionary on one thing. |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
114. Absolutely not. nt |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
118. Simply, NO! :-) n/t |
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