Joe. My. God.: Obama "We had a controversy A WHILE BACK"

[Bluebear]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIQLwe-MmxY

Notice at the -0:55 mark how Obama refers to the McClurkin controversy as happening "a while back." Uh, yeah. Waaaay back on Sunday. Spin, spin, spin.

Also from the same forum, but not in the clip:

Appearing at the Cedar Rapids Public Library, Abbi Swanson whose son is gay, asked what he would do to give him the same rights as opposite-sex couples. "You want the word marriage and I believe that the issue of marriage has become so entangled - the word marriage has become so entangled with religion - that it makes more sense for me as president, with that authority, to talk about the civil rights that are conferred " he told her.

Both Swanson and Lamb later told the Des Moines Register they were not satisfied with Obama's position. "I'm not completely satisfied that he's not for gay marriage ... but I'm happy he does believe in equal rights for gay citizens," Lamb said.

Swanson told the paper, "There isn't an electable candidate out there that has given me the answer I want, which is everything."

We're not going to get "everything", but we should at least demand that candidates who purport to support most gay issues not hand the microphone over to the "ex-gays". When the McClurkin issue first reared up, I was perplexed, then disappointed. Now I'm just pissed.

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/

[FredScuttle]

1. There goes Donnie's BFF...talking out of both sides yet again

I have yet to hear an apology from St. Obama for giving a microphone, a starring role and a stage and an audience to an "ex-gay" clown to spew homophobic filth, all in the name of Obama '08 (tagline: We Need The Votes)

[Bluebear]

2. Well, it was a while back, after all.

Maybe he forgot.

[Chovexani]

3. LOL

"A while back" is when you got wasted at your cousin's 4th of July Barbeque. Not last week.

Ye gods Obama is made of lose and fail.

[FredScuttle]

4. What a disgusting display

So much for "the audacity of hope".

"we have to reach out to those with a different attitude..." - in other words, Welcome, Bigots!

[mondo joe]

11. This was more "The Hope of Audacity".

[Yukari Yakumo]

5. *kneads forehead*

oy...oy...oy...

If I were his campaign manager, I'd have to ask Obama, "What the fuck are you thinking?" And then start looking for other work. For all intended purposes, the Obama campaign is done for. If he manages to move up in the polls, his rivals have plenty of ammo to make his supporters second-guess their support of him. The McGerkin episode demonstrates Obama is not ready for prime time.

[sniffa]

6. k&r for the audacity

no one outside of DU even knows about this. :rofl:

[NMMNG]

7. Blah blah blah, civil rights that are conferred

New Jersey anyone? It's already been proven that Civil Unions/Domestic Partnerships do not give the same rights as Marriage, no matter how well intentioned they are. The only thing that gives the same rights as Marriage is Marriage.

The thing is that all of these politicians know that, but to keep their religious bigot base happy they use the Civil Union diversion. But there are those of us who know better. The Colored Drinking fountain is not the same. Separate was never equal, and never will be.

And the controversy was not "a while back" as much as you'd like to forget it, Obama.

[terrya]

8. But if it's "a while back", we won't remember it!

Needless to say, :sarcasm:

Nice try, Senator. We still remember.

[Solon]

9. It was so far back I forgot all about it, oh wait, no I didn't, Obama is an ass. n/t

[IndianaJones]

10. test. nt.

[Lord Helmet]

12. Obama has gone into black churches for years talking against homophobia.

It's pretty clear Obama is getting a bump rap here.

[Bluebear]

14. He is getting a "bump rap" by saying the gaybashing concert was a "while back"?

Sorry, by anyone's definition, a week ago is not a while back.

[Lord Helmet]

17. I see you support Edwards.

Edwards said he felt uncomfortable being around gay people. It's pretty clear you are using selective criticism to bash Obama.

[terrya]

18. Edwards denied making that statement.

When he was at the Presidential Forum carried on the Logo Channel last month. Edwards said that was completely untrue.

[Bluebear]

19. My Edwards sig line went up after the concert, so don't give me a bump rap.

[CyberPieHole]

34. Way, way back in time (less than a month) I was an Obama supporter...

but, now that so much time has passed...it seems like a distant memory.:evilgrin:

[Capn Sunshine]

13. Meanwhile, back in the real world thiongs are pretty fucked up

The Dem congress continues to cave, on issue after issue, and you guys keep doing hit pieces on Obama because the real enemy is just too scary for you. God forbid you post anything to unite the party.
Fuckwits, you're all a bunch of freepers

[Bluebear]

15. Note: to GLBT ("you guys") people, this *is* a real world issue.

[NMMNG]

22. Interesting how we're supposed to unite the party

While their hero is tearing it apart. :eyes:

[FredScuttle]

20. "You guys..."

I hope you're including straight Democrats like me who were horrified that Obama gave a microphone and a starring role to an "ex-gay" clown at his fundraiser?

Because we're insulted too.

[Bluebear]

21. "You guys" is a recurring theme

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3674187#3674410

[Forkboy]

23. WTF Capn?

How is Obama uniting the party? He's the one fucking running for office while pandering to the lowest of the low on this.Look at your own choice before harping on "you guys". That's crap, and I expect a lot better from you.

[sniffa]

24. i'm sorry you expect more

:shrug:

[Forkboy]

25. Capn and I have gotten along for years, both here and elsewhere.

:shrug:

[sniffa]

26. but, it's primary season

and i now Look at many DUers differentLy.

[Forkboy]

27. Well, that's up to you.

When I like someone I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt more than I would some stranger I know nothing about, and I hope that they can see where I'm coming from on the times we disagree.

[mondo joe]

28. This is REAL WORLD. And any piece of shit who implies it's not can kiss my gay ass.

Got it?

[Bluebear]

29. Indeed.

:thumbsup:

[mondo joe]

30. And if anyone wants to push on this further by defending the indefensible, I hope they

know they are ONLY making enemies for Obama.

[yardwork]

32. And Obama will "unite the party" by showing this kind of leadership?

Here's a newsflash - GLBTQ have noticed that the "real world" is "pretty fucked up" - as you so eloquently put it - and like everyone else, we'd like to support a Democratic nominee who demonstrates some leadership. Obama made a mistake here. Pointing that out is not "doing a hit piece." It's raising very real concerns about the likely leadership of a candidate.

[FreeState]

33. Meanwhile GLBT youth are killing themselves because they are being told

that they must change into heterosexuals. Im sorry you don't see that as a pressing issue - but as a gay man who had to listen to that crap from politicians, my church and my family it is a pressing issue. Many lives are at stake here - especially when someone who should be a role model is allowing harmful and hateful rhetoric to be voiced at his event. It does not matter what he says - he allowed this to happen on his turf.

[NMMNG]

35. Get over it

Dead and emotionally tortured gay people is a non-issue. We've been told this by several DUers. Gobama!


:sarcasm:

[Evergreen Emerald]

16. he lied about McClurkin's participation AND he played the race card.

oh my...sounds like hypocrisy in politics.

[sniffa]

31. where's post 49?

:shrug:

what's going with DU LateLy.. i've been opening kicked threads and such, and there's usuaLLy at Least 3-15 missing posts. and not deLeted posts either.

[calteacherguy]

36. The government should not be involved in marriage because it's a religious institution.

We need to get rid of marriage licenses and just have civil union licenses for both straight and gay couples.

[ellisonz]

37. Dude, good job not defending the indefensible!

:sarcasm: