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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 08:18 PM
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Obama vs. Bush: The Great Mideast Debate
http://time-blog.com/middle_east/2007/11/obama_vs_bush.html

Obama vs. Bush: The Great Mideast Debate
Posted by Scott MacLeod

If Obama is trying to distinguish himself from other American leaders on the Middle East, he's doing a great job. His published views today on Iran are smart, measured and statesmanlike, in contrast, for example, to Bush's speech on terrorism last night, in which the president once again raised the specter of Muslim hoards crashing across our borders to destroy the American way of life. Take a look:

Obama on Iran, from today's New York Times:

In an hourlong interview on Wednesday, Mr. Obama made clear that forging a new relationship with Iran would be a major element of a broad effort to stabilize Iraq as he executed a speedy timetable for the withdrawal of American combat troops...

Making clear that he planned to talk to Iran without preconditions, Mr. Obama emphasized further that “changes in behavior” by Iran could possibly be rewarded with membership in the World Trade Organization, other economic benefits and security guarantees.

"We are willing to talk about certain assurances in the context of them showing some good faith,” he said in the interview at his campaign headquarters here. “I think it is important for us to send a signal that we are not hellbent on regime change, just for the sake of regime change, but expect changes in behavior. And there are both carrots and there are sticks available to them for those changes in behavior."


Bush speaking to the Heritage Foundation:

...on September the 11th, 2001...our nation was attacked by a brutal enemy that despises freedom, that rejects tolerance, that kills the innocent in the pursuit of a dark vision. These folks believe that it's okay to subjugate women and indoctrinate children and murder those who oppose their harsh rule. They have stated clearly they want to impose this ideology on millions. They're at war with America because they hate what they stand for -- and they understand we stand in their way.

We must take the words of the enemy seriously. The terrorists have stated their objectives. They intend to build a totalitarian Islamic empire -- encompassing all current and former Muslim lands, stretching from Europe to North Africa, the Middle East and Southeast Asia. In pursuit of their imperial aims, these extremists say there can be no compromise or dialog with those they call infidels -- a category that includes America, the world's free nation , Jews, and all Muslims who reject their extreme vision of Islam. They reject the possibility of peaceful coexistence with the free world. Again, hear the words of Osama bin Laden last year: "Death is better than living on this Earth with the unbelievers among us."

Given the nature of the enemy and the words of its leaders, politicians who deny that we are at war are either being disingenuous or naive. Either way, it is dangerous for our country. We are at war -- and we cannot win this war by wishing it away or pretending it does not exist.


Take notice: on Iran, at least, Obama is speaking a new kind of language for mainstream American politics. For nearly 30 years since the Iranian revolution kicked out a shah who had been installed by the CIA, American leaders have been too timid to engage in a constructive dialogue with Iran. That includes Hillary's husband, whose curiosity was aroused by the moderate Khatami but failed to rise to the challenge of how to achieve a diplomatic opening for the good of both countries. Now Obama says he's willing to go to Iran to talk without preconditions, reward Iran with positive changes in behavior and demonstrate that the U.S. is not hellbent on regime change.

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http://time-blog.com/middle_east/2007/11/obama_vs_bush.html
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 08:26 PM
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1. I can't believe Time gave Obama a good review. Time is big into Hillary.
like the rest of the msm.
But, I noticed obama got some great reviews for this iran policy. I love the statesmanlike. oh yea!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 08:43 PM
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2. He would bring a completely different tact to the White House.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 08:10 AM
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3. Yes, and one that is desperately needed! But you knew that. nt
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