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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:54 AM
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Hillary's VP will be as comfortable in jeans and on a combine as well as the State house. Her VP
will understand the issues of crop migration as the south becomes more arid and when water rights disputes between the states become a major problem.

A symbol of the mid west. Someone who will create such a media buzz that these two would would suck the O2 out of the GOP and show that totally different women can get be a team and get the job done.

Gov K Sebelius is that person.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:56 AM
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1. Won't happen, although I like Sebelius.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:58 AM
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2. Why not? n/t
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:06 PM
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5. Well, I'm going to be un-PC and honest here:
Hillary already has lesbian rumors surrounding her, which she's actually publicly denied. Two women on the ticket will just sort of reinforce that image, if you ask me. While it shouldn't matter, it would--nasty smears and jokes will abound.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:12 PM
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6. The rumors already are there and will be used by the RW. We have got to stop letting the right
lead us around by the nose, because they will be nasty. They will be nasty anyway. People are much more savvy than you give them credit for.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:59 AM
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3. Check out my avatar.
I highly doubt he will have a Dem ticket with no white males on it. Just a hunch.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:04 PM
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4. The mold needs to be broken, it hasn't been very effective for a while. I agree it's a long shot. nt
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:13 PM
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7. Objectively not a bad choice
But not particularly well known outside the area, and unlikely to add any great political advantage. While I wasn't thinking of the lesbian rumors, the two women angle does have some potential liability with the "we need toughness and respect from anti-women regimes" POV, which does include some independents as well as bona fide troglodytes. My shortlist would be Clark, Richardson and (don't laugh at this without thinking about it...) Kerrey
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:22 PM
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8. The problem with Clark and Richardson is they have no people skills. Kerrey is
in the Brown class of Gov Moonbeam. We need people who are known and respected in their region as problem solvers.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:27 PM
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10. What are you smoking? Don't know about Richardson, but
Clark is highly-respected as a diplomat as well as a general. He was directly involved in the peace negotiations re: the Balkans, and as Supreme Allied Commander of NATO had head-of-state authority in that respect. He'd be a first-rate VP. Better President, actually, or SoS. But let's not jump the gun on finding a VP for Hillary. She doesn't have the nomination locked up, despite what the MSM and a few of her more fanatical DU supporters want to tell you.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:36 PM
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12. USA mentol 100's. n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:54 PM
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14. Clark has no people skills?
Edited on Mon Nov-05-07 12:55 PM by FrenchieCat
:wtf:

You might want to read my sig, first and foremost.....

and also,
Maybe you should read Clark's latest book on Leadership; because it tells his life story point by point and shows what real leadership looks like; and at the end of the day, leadership is about nothing more than the ultimate people skills; because people will not allow you to lead them if you haven't connected with them in some way.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/product-description/1403984743/ref=dp_proddesc_0/002-4378097-6216807?ie=UTF8&n=283155&s=books

And it is rather odd, that with no "people skills", Clark's grassroot support was still on standby till he decided not to run. That, my friend, takes real, not imagined, "People" skills.

Negotiating a peace agreement that stands a decade in time took people skills......because you can't get people to do what you want to do if you haven't been able to connect with them in the way required.

And last, but not least.....being married for 40 years takes nothing short of People skills. Ask Giuliani about that.

In short......I don't think you truly know what "People skills" means how "People skills" are measured ......and it is my belief that your opinion as to whether Clark and/or Richardson have them does not withstand scrutiny, i.e., evidence or proof.

What is clear is that Wes Clark didn't have the "media is on my side and kissing my ass" skills. That, I will concede, Clark lacked in 2004.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:23 PM
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9. Brian Schweitzer is going to be her VP?
:evilgrin:
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:31 PM
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11. Ok, I'll bite. Who is he and why? n/t
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:41 PM
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13. Montana governor. Brilliant.
http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2006/01/18/bass/

The governor is a politician of such breathtaking dexterity, ability, and raw, hungry, political instinct that your first thought upon witnessing him -- no matter whether you're a Republican or Democrat -- is likely to be, "When does he explode, and in what manner?" For rarely in American politics has anyone this good been that way indefinitely.

Brian Schweitzer has only been the governor of Montana for a year, but already, among Democrats in the state and beyond, I sense a Clintonesque déjà vu creeping in, a relief that all will be all right, that our values are protected. We are not considering how fast and bright such stars burn.

As was Clinton, Schweitzer is incredibly likeable -- he seems sometimes to be leaning forward on his toes, beaming in advance of an audience's appreciation -- but while Clinton was often guilty of working over-hard to placate his enemies, it's easier to envision Schweitzer responding with a real bristle factor when someone gets in his face, tries to be a bully or a malcontent, disruptive of a project that builds economic or community or social strength. Schweitzer single-handedly trounced the Republican Party in 2004, not just driving them from the capitol, but leading the charge to regain the state House and Senate as well -- but, bridge builder that he is, he chose state Sen. John Bohlinger, a progressive Republican, as his running mate.

The new governor displays a flair for visual, even cinematic, politics, and Montanans have become accustomed to above-the-fold photos of him knocking back a shot of sunlit amber whiskey to celebrate the 10 a.m. reopening of a historic bar in Butte, or popping a cork to celebrate the initial stages in the removal of a dam on the Clark Fork River. Already, there seems no end to the roll call of his greatest hits, and no lessening of his appetite for (or ability to provide) them.

More:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/magazine/08governor.html

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/lotp/2005/04/19/montana_governor/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Schweitzer



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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:54 PM
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15. Thanks. He meets my top criteria that the VP be a Governor and his reviews look go. I hope
the campaign staff will take notice. It also amazes me that all these qualified new faces are overlooked here at DU Politics, I don't visit the state forums enough.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 01:14 PM
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16. it will be radical enough to have one woman on the ticket and Hillary wouldn't put a second.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 01:33 PM
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17. I know change is very frighting but two women, IMO will not lessen or increase that fright level. n/
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