Tonight: The Jefferson-Jackson Dinner

[babylonsister]

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/11/tonight_the_jeffersonjackson_dinner.php

Tonight: The Jefferson-Jackson Dinner
By Eric Kleefeld - November 10, 2007, 2:47PM

As a reminder, tonight is the Iowa Democratic Party's annual Jefferson-Jackson Dinner, which will feature six presidential candidates — Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Edwards, Bill Richardson, Joe Biden and Chris Dodd — courting the party activists in the key caucus state.

The event will be shown live on C-Span 1, beginning at 8 p.m. ET.

[MethuenProgressive]

1. Thanks for the reminder!

All DUers should be watching tonight!
:dem:

[cali]

29. All Duers don't have TV

I disconnected from Cable 2+ years ago, and I rarely miss it.

[flpoljunkie]

61. It is online, as well.

http://www.c-span.org

[99th_Monkey]

2. I wonder who insisted that Kucinich be excluded. bet there's a good story there. n/t

[babylonsister]

3. Here's an article I posted when I first heard about DK not being invited:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3687676

[99th_Monkey]

4. Pre-emptively winnowing democracy itself IMO n/t

[MethuenProgressive]

8. DK doesn't have active campaign there, so no invite.

Makes sense to me. :shrug:

(man this thing is late starting up....)

[gateley]

5. K&R to remind folks. Thanks! nt

[jenmito]

6. They just said it'll start late, about 8:30 ET. n/t

[babylonsister]

7. So all the peons in the nosebleed section get to watch everyone eat?

Hmmm. Do they get scraps? Cake? Anything?

[Auntie Bush]

10. Is it on yet and what Corporation?

[babylonsister]

11. I don't know what you mean about corporation, but it's supposedly

coming on momentarily. I'm waiting til the dim one exits stage right, left, I don't care which direction!

[babylonsister]

13. It's on now, CSPAN1. nt

[MethuenProgressive]

9. My C-span is showing a Bush interview.......

Well, that sucks.

[Auntie Bush]

12. Found it. It's on now

[seasat]

14. They've got live streaming video of it on C-Span's site

Here's the link.

[gateley]

15. This is EXCITING! I feel like such a nerd! Debi is there!! nt

[itsrobert]

16. They played some screeching horror type music when Hillary was announced

Sounded like the Psycho theme. Could of been the screeching of her fans?

[babylonsister]

17. What are they yelling about Obama? nt

[flpoljunkie]

18. FIRED UP! READY TO GO!

[jenmito]

20. WOW! The crowd is definitely for Obama! What are they chanting?

[flpoljunkie]

23. "FIRED UP! READY TO GO!"

[jenmito]

26. FIRE IT UP! READY TO GO!

:hi:

[ariesgem]

36. Check out the crowd from the floor..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voX9v7pgtOA

The Obama camp said 3000 (1/3 of the audience) will be attending.

[flpoljunkie]

42. Awesome! And, they are truly FIRED UP! and READY TO GO!

[jenmito]

46. Cool! Thanks!

They sure applauded the loudest for him!

[flpoljunkie]

109. Thanks for the youtube clip! "FIRED UP! READY TO GO!"

[babylonsister]

27. Excellent! Thanks. nt

[Auntie Bush]

19. Biden's wife is pretty kool! Hillary is getting lots of applause...so is Obama!

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

21. didn't know Michele Obama is so tall

[BeyondGeography]

22. Pledge of Allegiance...hands over hearts, everyone

:sarcasm:

[babylonsister]

24. Ha!

;)

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

25. It is disgusting to expect ADULTS to recite the pledge of allegience

it's a dim-witted little anti-American proto-fascist relic of the 1950s

[Nutmegger]

28. Is this the official thread?

Checking in... :hi:

[Lindsey]

30. It's on now. I see all of the men have their wives. Even though Hillary's

not my 1st choice, I still wish he (Bill) was there. He is the spouse of a candidate....I'm just sayin':shrug:

[jenmito]

31. Maybe because he overshadows her?

I'm just sayin'...

[magnolia]

38. Bill overshadows...

...ALL of them.

[jenmito]

40. True. But lately he's been bad for Hillary's campaign...

maybe that's another reason why he's not there.

[Nutmegger]

32. Go John Go!

I can't wait to hear him speak! :bounce:

[babylonsister]

33. Someone posted he's up first with his speech, so you won't have

long to wait!

[jenmito]

35. I hope Obama goes last!

They called his name last, so I hope so!

[flpoljunkie]

44. Yes, I read Obama would be speaking last.

[jenmito]

47. Good. Thanks! He'll hit it out of the park!

He's gonna fire 'em up!

[babylonsister]

51. It will be an opportunity for everyone who's watching to see him in action,

to see why he inspires so many!

[jenmito]

54. Yup! I can't wait to see him fire up EVERYONE THERE! I want to see

supporters of other candidates drop their signs and run to Obama's section! :D

[jenmito]

34. You mean Barack?

:D

[Nutmegger]

41. LOL

:D

[jenmito]

45. :-)

I'm glad you took that in the spirit it was meant. :)

[flpoljunkie]

78. Yes, I answered the wrong post!

[jenmito]

85. No you didn't. I was joking with Nutmegger who's for Edwards.

:hi:

[BeyondGeography]

37. Fairly tepid applause for the Vilsacks

Sibelius (KS) got a better reaction.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

39. They love some K. Sibelius

[Nutmegger]

43. Speaker Pelosi up now

[Nutmegger]

48. Lt. Gov. Patty Judge speaking now.

[babylonsister]

49. And all I wanted was to hear the candidates.

:cry:

[Nutmegger]

53. Me too.

I'm hanging off my seat here!

[jenmito]

55. Me three.

I can't wait to see it covered on the news in the coming days, too.

[sandnsea]

56. I like hearing the locals

We're what it's all about. Let's average folks know there's a place for them in local politics. There should be more of these local things televised on local PBS stations.

[Nutmegger]

50. Iowa Gov. Chet Culver speaking now.

[Auntie Bush]

52. Let's get with the program! Enough already!

[Nutmegger]

57. Introductions starting now from Speaker Pelosi.

[jenmito]

59. She's going to introduce every candidate as "the next president of the United States"

That's kind of funny.

[Nutmegger]

58. John Edwards!!

Go John Go!!!

:applause:

[Nutmegger]

60. John Edwards coming up now!

:bounce:

[Nutmegger]

62. "It's time for us as a party to stand up with some backbone"

"We will not ignore the poor."

"We will not continue to ship American jobs overseas."

"We do not believe in lobbyists writing laws."

"We believe in the promise of America for every single American."

"That's the America we believe in."

[jenmito]

63. He's attacking Hillary...

He's doing it again now.

[jillan]

64. Edwards hasn't told me one reason to vote for him.

He has done a great job of bashing this administration, but nothing to sell himself.

Did you know he was the son of a mill worker?

[jenmito]

66. ...because he's not Hillary?

That's the message I'm getting.

[jillan]

67. And he's not Bush.

Sorry - I want more meat on my politicians.

[jenmito]

69. He's talking about the mill again.

I'm tired of that line.

[sandnsea]

68. He'll fight the corporate interests

and that's high on my list. Now if I could only be 100% sure I could believe him.

[Nutmegger]

65. "The few are in charge of the government instead of the many."

"You have to stand up to change this system."

"It is time for Americans to be patriotic about something besides war."

[Auntie Bush]

70. Darn...Edwards is still swishing his tongue back and forth while speaking.

I find that very disconcerting and annoying.

Why didn't he show this passion when he was campaigning for Kerry. I wonder if he used Kerry to get his own personal message and name out?
Maybe he really deep down didn't want Kerry to win so he could run for President today. Nasty thought... :spank: but possible. Now he's fighting back the tears. Now he's bring up his wife's breast cancer. Oh my!

[jillan]

71. That bothers me.

I feel he is looking for sympathy for Elizabeth.

Is it just me?

[Cameron27]

74. It's not just you.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

75. He is a trial lawyer... they use everything available (not knocking it, nessecarily)

[jenmito]

76. No, it's not just you...

he repeated one of his commercials.

[flpoljunkie]

83. Why implore Iowans to "trust your heart?" Vote with your head, Iowans!

[jenmito]

89. I think it was another swipe at Hillary-not to vote for just the person they think can win.

They should vote with their heads, too. Vote Obama!

[jenmito]

73. You left out the word, but did you mean his tongue? I saw it, too.

It bugs me to no end.

[itsrobert]

77. Yes he undermined Kerry

So he couldn't be Vice President and a shoo-in for the Nominee in 2012. :sarcasm:

[sandnsea]

80. I don't believe that either

I do think he's running a different campaign now though, but I don't know if it's because the times have changed, he has changed, or he's just getting different advise.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

72. I pity the candidate who has to follow Edwards... that was strong

[Nutmegger]

79. Richardson up now.

[slick8790]

84. Ahh he's so boring!

Yes, he's a walking resume, but my god...no charisma. a good vp.

[Renew Deal]

88. I agree.

:boring:

[Renew Deal]

81. Richardson said the last speech will be a good one.

Who's speaking last?

[Nutmegger]

82. Obama's speaking last.

[jenmito]

94. Go Barack go!

:bounce:

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

90. I think he was trying to Edwards had been good. (Bill isn't always clear)

[jenmito]

95. I don't think so. He was speaking in the future tense.

Obama will be speaking last.

[BeyondGeography]

92. Could have been referring to the "last speech" as in Edwards'

But that's always a problem with Richardson, isn't it? He makes statements that leave us all asking questions.

Oops, there he goes again..."Every American, no matter who or she is..."

[Renew Deal]

93. He could have.

I wasn't really sure.

[Renew Deal]

86. Richardson's speech is not that great. He's shouting and he's talking about hte past.

He's not talking about the future yet.

[babylonsister]

87. Richardson brings up the Mukasey confirmation and is fuming that the

Senate didn't consider the Constitution.

[itsrobert]

91. The best part is that the Newspapers have their story and are going to bed

It's going to be all about Edwards tomorrow in Iowa and NH papers tomorrow. ;)

[jenmito]

96. I disagree...

Obama didn't speak yet.

[Cameron27]

97. I expect Obama to shine tonight,

the debate format doesn't do him justice, but this forum seems perfect.

[jenmito]

104. I agree...

and he's the last speaker, too. Did you hear how loudly they applauded/cheered for him?

[Cameron27]

106. No, I missed it

I turned C-span on too late :-(

[jenmito]

108. Man. They called Hillary and they applauded ok, but then they called Obama and they

went nuts-chanting something over and over!

[Auntie Bush]

98. Me thinks not. They are all patiently waiting for Obama .

They are also waiting for Hillary to say something they can chat/cat about for the next two weeks and drive her poll numbers down so they can be sure to have a horse race! They'll find plenty of fodder!

I like what Richardson said about not killing each other in this campaign.

Richardson is not a very good speaker...so I don't think he'll be picked for VP.

[Renew Deal]

99. Richardson doesn't really offer anything.

His resume is perfect, but he's ineffectual, and has nothing new to offer.

[Auntie Bush]

100. Now Biden! This should be good! I hope he's received well by the press.

[jillan]

102. Awesome intro from Pelosi!

[sandnsea]

105. amazing how Republicans get converted

Oh criminy I don't think anybody except Joe could get away with that. :rofl:

[Cameron27]

107. Yep

[Nutmegger]

101. Joe Biden up now.

[babylonsister]

103. I like Biden, but I hope they have time limits for these speeches.

;-)

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

110. Joe started slow, but this has become a beautiful statement

[Cameron27]

111. I think so too,

he made the point that he'd make the fastest transition if elected. (among other things. It's a good speech IMO)

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

114. Amazing show of respect for the audience

[sandnsea]

112. That was amazing

Very impressive.

[babylonsister]

113. I thought Biden was really good, too. His experience surely doesn't

hurt.

[jillan]

115. Loved his Sept 15th speech!

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

117. Lost opportunities... Brings a tear, just like the opening of Farenheit 9/11

[jillan]

119. That really hit home. I sat here and fantasized what would be going on in the world if Biden was in

charge back then. 9/11 probably wouldn't of happened - Biden would have read the memo that said "bin Laden determined to attack in the US"

[Nutmegger]

116. Speaker Pelosi introducing Rep. Leonard Boswell.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

120. This guy's message is hard to grasp... he needs a slower delivery

(joke)

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

118. That Biden speech made me feel a deep personal responsibilty... that's politics at its best

[itsrobert]

121. Anyone but the closest supporters and Politcal Junkies

Have turned this off and gone to bed.

[babylonsister]

122. So what? Most people weren't watching it to begin with. nt

[Naturyl]

123. Hate to poop the party, but...

This dinner is a sham without Kucinich and even Mike Gravel. They are running, and they ought to have a chance to speak. I know there are some who think Gravel and perhaps even Kucinich are "not serious candidates," but that's simply a matter of opinion. Is this democracy or isn't it? If it is, then let's hear all the options.

[Renew Deal]

124. I agree about Kucinich

I don't think you can truly determine who is serious and who isn't until people start voting. I do think that candidates should drop out once they lose a few primaries in a row. It helps clarify things for voters.

[Orangepeel]

128. How about Aaron, Aranjo, Ashe, Ballard, Gerasmios, Boyer, etc.?

There are over 40 announced Democratic candidates. I can't blame the Iowa party for restricting it to candidates they thought were "serious."

It was a matter of opinion to exclude, say, Wrendo Johnson P. Godwin, whoever the hell he is. I wouldn't put Kucinich in the same category, of course, because he is a US Congressman, but it is a matter of opinion to use that as a criterion.

http://www.vote-smart.org/election_president_search.php?type=party

Status Name Party
Announced Laura Davis Aaron Democrat
Announced Roland G. Aranjo Democrat
Announced Warren Roderick Ashe Democrat
Announced George H. Ballard Democrat
Announced Joseph R. Biden Democrat
Announced Christina Gerasimos Billings-Elias Democrat
Announced Robert Edwin Boyer Democrat
Announced Ryan Joseph Brady Democrat
Announced Emperor Caesar Democrat
Announced Raymond Joseph Caplette Democrat
Announced Willie Felix Carter Democrat
Announced Hillary Rodham Clinton Democrat
Announced Randolph Wilson Crow Democrat
Announced Jack L Dietz Democrat
Announced Christopher J. Dodd Democrat
Announced John Reid Edwards Democrat
Announced Philip Epstein Democrat
Announced Lou-Gary Espinosa Democrat
Announced Nickolas Bevan Farmer Democrat
Announced Michael Keith Forrester Democrat
Announced Heather Fox Democrat
Announced Dory Frank Democrat
Announced Donald Robert Gillen Democrat
Announced Wrendo Johnson P. Godwin Democrat
Announced Maurice Robert Gravel Democrat
Announced Gerald Lamar Hankins Democrat
Announced Henry Hewes Democrat
Announced William Charles Hughes Democrat
Announced Darrel Reece Hunter Democrat
Announced Keith Russell Judd Democrat
Announced John Joseph Kennedy Democrat
Announced Karl Everett Krueger Democrat
Announced Dennis J. Kucinich Democrat
Announced Dal Anthony LaMagna Democrat
Announced Monroe Lee Democrat
Announced Frank Lynch Democrat
Announced John Christopher Mason Democrat
Announced Orleans Victor Mcfoy Democrat
Announced Lee L. Mercer Democrat
Announced Sal Mohamed Democrat
Announced Grover Cleveland Mullins Democrat
Announced Barack Hussein Obama Democrat
Announced Michel Anissa Powell Democrat
Announced Larry Keith Reed Democrat
Announced Bill Richardson Democrat
Announced Ole' Savior Democrat
Announced John W. Sawyer Democrat
Announced Barbara Ann Scaff Democrat
Announced Scott J. Sheldon Democrat
Announced James Wellington Wright Democrat

[burythehatchet]

137. Dennis is polling better than some of those invited. This is a sham

[Nutmegger]

125. Speaker Pelosi introducing Chris Dodd now.

[jillan]

126. I like Dodd.

[Nutmegger]

127. Speaker Pelosi introducing Tom Harkin now.

[Nutmegger]

129. Speaker Pelosi introducing Hillary Clinton now.

[Auntie Bush]

130. I think Hillary is doing great. A slow start but now cooking!

[sandnsea]

132. She ended well

Thank goodness because I honestly don't want any potential nominee to fail miserably. I don't know why she thought she needed to try on some weird new voice. Glad she just let it rip at the end.

[Auntie Bush]

133. She didn't want to be called a witch or shrill. Sometimes life isn't fair.

[Nutmegger]

131. Obamaites, your time has come. Speaker Pelosi introducing Barack Obama now.

[flpoljunkie]

134. Well done, Barack! Well done!

[Colobo]

135. Obama's speech was simply AWESOME!

[burythehatchet]

136. Doesn't matter, Dennis wasn't invited