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Sat Nov-10-07 11:26 PM
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Anyone who thinks "Plant-a-Gate" is going to have an affect on Hillary's campaign is grasping |
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at straws.
It's pretty hilarious watching Fox News and half of this place trying to make such a mountain out of a tiny little molehill. Voters care more about the Goddess of Peace ending the war when and if she takes office (unless Obama or Kucinich overtakes her, that is) than they do about one of her staffers fucking up at some town hall meeting. Good gawd.
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Sat Nov-10-07 11:29 PM
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1. I just checked in....what is "plant a gate"? |
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Sat Nov-10-07 11:31 PM
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5. It's DU's name for the thing where 1 of her staff planted a question in the crowd |
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for her to answer and got caught.
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Sat Nov-10-07 11:50 PM
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Something the anti-Clintonites here cooked up. Figures.
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:34 AM
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15. oh, I thought she had warts on her feet |
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:35 AM
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:47 AM
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17. I thought I was funny |
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but you just brought tears to my eyes! I must be tired.
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:52 AM
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18. I have that effect on people. |
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Usually not in a good way.
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:59 AM
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Sat Nov-10-07 11:30 PM
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2. her support for NY governor on driver license issue |
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is much more likely to harm her. Pity it was a reasonable response to the question which SHOULDN'T be answered simply as Right/Wrong.
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Sat Nov-10-07 11:33 PM
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Sat Nov-10-07 11:31 PM
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3. I know--ridiculous--if this is worst thing they can come up with |
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they should throw in the towel.
GWB screnes his audiences so that nothing but certain questions are asked from a friendly audience....we Americans have taken this in stride.
Grasping at straws is correct.
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Sat Nov-10-07 11:31 PM
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4. Faking the grassroots democratic process is a "tiny molehill?" |
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Sat Nov-10-07 11:32 PM
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6. Did Hillary herself do it or was it a staffer? Big difference. Wake up. |
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Sat Nov-10-07 11:34 PM
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8. Her staffer must know she has problems answering questions and was just trying to help? |
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Sat Nov-10-07 11:35 PM
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9. Yeah, everyone should have her problems like double digit leads in the polls. lol |
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Sat Nov-10-07 11:40 PM
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10. How did Hillary just happen to call on the plant? |
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Why do it if you don't tell the candidate whom to call on? It strains credulity to suggest that she didn't know exactly what was going on.
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Sun Nov-11-07 02:21 AM
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21. Exactly. Either way, it's outright deception. |
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Say she just called on a questioner that one of her staffers pointed out to her, but she didn't know the person had been given a question. If this is true, she's still making it seem like she's calling on a random questioner rather than someone who's been filtered by the campaign. Even in this case, she's deceiving people by having them think that she's standing up to whatever might come by: she's pretending to be brave to take what may come and she's pretending to be open to and approachable by the people. At the bare minimum, it's pretty extreme stagey deception.
Knowingly using a claque is filth politics of the Rovian variety and anyone who doesn't get that has big moral problems.
Beyond all that, it's just hard to believe she didn't know the whole thing; she's a traditional machine politician cut from whole cloth, and that cloth is Tweed.
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Sat Nov-10-07 11:42 PM
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11. I'll be attending my Iowa caucus |
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I started out this primary season with no clear front runner in mind. Every time some new thing like this planting business appears about Clinton, she drops another notch in my evaluation process. Busing in out-of-staters for tonight's JJ dinner dropped her another notch. I can also cite her connections with Rupert Murdoch as well as her recent vote on the Lieberman-Kyl invitation to bomb Iran as reasons I've begun to distrust her. She never has admitted she was suckered by Bush on the Iraq resolution. If I knew Iraq had no WMDs at that time, how is it that she, with all her resources, didn't? I question whether she was suckered at all but chose instead to support what seemed to be the popular view at the time that some country had to suffer for 9-11, even if that country didn't have a damn thing to do with it. If she is the nominee, I'll have to vote for her, but she has lost considerable credibility with me, just as other candidates are gaining credibility.
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Sat Nov-10-07 11:47 PM
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12. You cite some excellent examples of Sen Clinton's issues. |
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Edited on Sat Nov-10-07 11:49 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
And they are troublesome, indeed.
However, THIS one is not the ditch to die in, unless one is fixated on the superficial. If this one episode where a staffer suggested a student ask a question about her current policy on global warming changed your mind, than you didn't support her to begin with.
Faux disillusionment, for trivial issues, the lazy intellect. An often unfathomable foe. MKJ
edit because I hit post instead of preview, yikes.
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:59 AM
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20. Do you have a link for her bussing in out of staters and do you know |
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if any other candidates did the same?
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:32 AM
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14. Well we have rudi the 9/11 nutso |
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and now Obama I didn't vote for the war. Hell no he probably sat that one out like he does all the hard votes....
Obama -- I didn't vote for the war Obama -- I didn't vote for the war.
Tell does everybody now know that rudi is connected to 9/11 and that Obama did not vote for the war. Yeah Yeah....
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Sun Nov-11-07 07:30 AM
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22. Note that the anti-Hillarties are in perfect synch with the corporate media--as always. |
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