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ariesgem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 03:36 PM
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IowaPolitics.com: Some Dem caucus-goers pick Obama, Edwards as Jeff-Jack winners
By IowaPolitics.com Staff

Iowa Democratic Party Chairman Scott Brennan called it "the most successful Jefferson Jackson Dinner in history," but it was more successful for some candidates than for others.

After discussions with party insiders and people in attendance, the early consensus seemed to be that the candidates who have generally polled in the top three -- Hillary Clinton, John Edwards and Barack Obama -- all did well, with Edwards and Obama excelling in particular. Among the other three candidates -- Joe Biden, Chris Dodd and Bill Richardson -- the crowd seemed to be moved the most by Dodd and Biden, but not enough to significantly affect their chances in January, interviews Saturday night suggested. Candace Opstvedt of Story City was an undecided caucus-goer, but not any longer.

"I am definitely leaning toward Barack after tonight," she said after the long night of speeches and Democratic fundraising, including an auction. Undecided caucus-goer Jordan Oster, a Drake University student and a Des Moines native, thought Obama and Edwards made a definite impression on the crowd.

"It is yet to be seen if tonight can be considered a moment of shakeup, but I think it really goes to show that Edwards and Obama cemented their importance in the race," he said. "Neither made direct reference to Senator Clinton, but without mistake many references were aimed her way."

Oster said he thought Biden, Dodd and Richardson did well, but didn't stand out.

"None of these candidates made what can be considered new pitches but they played to their strong points," Oster said. "Each of them face problems in how they overcome the excitement and attention focused, and certainly kept tonight, by the other candidates." Des Moines resident Huy Tu is an Obama supporter, but thought Edwards delivered the second best speech. Melissa Koss of Cedar Rapids is also an Obama suporter, but thought Hillary Clinton gave the second best speech of the night. Robert Schliesman of Ames shared the same thoughts as Koss.

Edwards, who has seen his lead in the Iowa polls dwindle away this year, was the first candidate to speak and may have reinvigorated supporters with a fiery speech that included a spirited list of Democratic party principles. He was passionate and emotional as he promised to give America hope and give entrenched interests ``hell.'' Edwards urged the crowd to "stand up to change this system" and work on delivering a better country to the next generation. He highlighted his work as a lawyer, saying he had repeatedly beaten special interests in court and that he would do it again as president.

"I am a political junkie, and definitely support Edwards because of his consistently, specific, sensible policies," said Pat Sheller, an Edwards supporter from Bettendorf. "I respect the way he answers questions directly and honestly at every campaign stop."

Sheller also had kind words for the other two top candidates: "Obama was a very impressive speaker, and Clinton presented herself as a very formidable contender."

http://www.iowapolitics.com/index.iml?Article=110277
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 03:40 PM
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1. In your imagination, Edwards is dwinling in the polls
Iowa is a three way tie this week,
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 03:45 PM
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2. Yeah, its a pity that he didn't have a chance to speak to them last night
Because that could have changed something had he had the chance.

:crazy:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 03:45 PM
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4. The trend is a slow steady decline for Edwards in Iowa.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 07:40 PM
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10. Edwards only started advertisements in Iowa a very short while ago. (nt)
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Think82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 03:45 PM
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3. the crowd wasn't as "moved" by the second tier candidates because Obama /Clinton bused in supporters
from Chicago. Ugh.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 03:52 PM
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5. Hillary bused in supporters from other states. Got a link that Obama did, too?
TIA.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 04:28 PM
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8. His 3000 were bussed in from within the state
"DES MOINES, IA – Nearly one in three people at last night’s Jefferson-Jackson Dinner was an Obama supporter. The campaign brought 3,000 supporters to a dinner that had 9,000 attendees. They also made sure to have a representative from each of Iowa’s 99 counties in attendance.

When asked if all of the Obama supporters attending the event were from Iowa, Obama’s Iowa Press Secretary Tommy Vietor said, “All of them. Except for my dad.”

Even the press was not forgotten in the campaign’s planning efforts. Each reporter was handed a fortune cookie by Obama staffers that predicted one of three futures: (1) “Iowans will caucus for Obama;” (2) “You’re fired up! Obama’s ready to go!” (3) “Your outlook will be more hopeful…When Obama is president.”

The Obama campaign had been planning for the dinner for months, and the efforts put forward showed both a desire to stress their organizational strength and their support within Iowa. They said they brought buses from four staging locations across the state and printed 11,000 signs for the event."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/11/460606.aspx
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 09:47 PM
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12. From an Obama supporters website:
Edited on Sun Nov-11-07 09:51 PM by seasonedblue
(Maryland State Field Team)

Jefferson Jackson Dinner - Mid-Atlantic to Iowa!! (Organizing)
Jefferson Jackson Dinner
Des Moines, IA
November 9 - 11

This is THE event for Iowa Dems every year and is our best chance to participate and make a decisive impact on the voters of Iowa before the caucus.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is to Serve as Master of Ceremonies.

The 2007 Jefferson Jackson Dinner on November 10th, 2007 will feature speeches by Senator Barack Obama, Senator Joe Biden, Senator Hillary Clinton, Senator Chris Dodd, Senator John Edwards, and Governor Bill Richardson.

The Jefferson Jackson Dinner will be held in Vets Auditorium in Des Moines. Additional speakers will include Senator Tom Harkin, Governor Chet Culver, Lieutenant Governor Patty Judge and Congressman Leonard Boswell.

We will have an opportunity to canvass in Iowa prior to the dinner and we will have a personal tour of the National Headquarters. If you're going to the caucus in January this is our BEST opportunity to visit Iowa prior to crunch time.

We will be caravanning and taking buses so please sign up AND email me with your contact info ASAP. The more the better! Lodging and transportation provided (for those that don't want to arrange transportation themselves).

Robert Yochem
State Field Team
Maryland for Obama

http://my.barackobama.com/page/event/detail/4v5b8

There's no verification of how many from Maryland attended.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 10:21 PM
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13. Welll now. Thats quite a bit different than what the campaign said, isn't it?
I hadn't seen that. Thanks!
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mruddy Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 04:06 PM
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6. Clinton also brought in 2 bus loads from Minnesota.
I was in attendance last night. It's so obvious this is occurring. At this event as well as the Harkin Steak-fry earlier this year, Clinton and Obama "supporter groups" are mostly in their early 20s while Edwards' supporters are mostly between 35 and 80. From past caucuses I can tell you that it wasn't the 20 year olds who attended caucuses, it was the 45-75 year olds.

Clinton has recently "brought in" an additional 1000 to her Iowa campaign staff. Those 1000 will be able to register and caucus here in Iowa. With some strategic placement of these "new Iowans", that's one way to win Iowa.

It's getting interesting!
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 07:31 PM
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9. Oh for pity sake
I thought you all were joking.

Is there nothing too low for this campaign?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 07:52 PM
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11. Joking about what?
And also, I'm wondering why you keep avoiding my question about Edwards:

You DO know he first chose to FOREGO matching funds, don't you?

He didn't "choose" matching funds 'til he came up short compared to Hillary and Obama. There are many links to show this fact...
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 04:13 PM
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7. And a lot pick Hillary so just what does this prove.
Different people like different candidates.
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