Official GD: Politics DebateThread.

[Joe the Revelator]

Because the fireworks are starting early. Its the Hillary and Obama show. Wolf needs to get things under control.

[polichick]

1. She won that round imo nt

[Joe the Revelator]

2. I don't know about that. NT

[babylonsister]

3. Yes:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2290406&mesg_id=2290406

[Joe the Revelator]

5. pfft. General Discussion.

We need one in here.

[babylonsister]

6. You're welcome. nt

[Beaverhausen]

4. there's one in GD

[Joe the Revelator]

7. Biden is so awesome.

[Think82]

15. AGREED! BIDEN is the only adult up onstage, as usual.

[Joe the Revelator]

8. What were people in the crowd yelling during the Hillary/Obama exchange?

nt

[polichick]

9. Not sure...

But some just yelled during Edwards' comments too.

[Joe the Revelator]

10. I don't like the lack of control in this debate

Like the clapping during questions, the random screamed comments from the crowd. I don't know, I don't dig it.

[Tellurian]

67. Edwards has been bood several times tonight..

what is it going to take for him to smarten up?

[Clintonista2]

13. I was wondering that too

[asdjrocky]

11. Edwards just kicked some ass.

[polichick]

12. Dodd got some nice applause. nt

[Joe the Revelator]

14. The lower tier candidates are coming on strong...

by rising above the fray. Even stutter fuck Richardson sounds better then that first exchange between Hillary and Obama.

[Think82]

16. TWICE already: "I agree with Joe"

one from Edwards, one from Dodd... and counting

[polichick]

17. Obama's getting into the same trouble Clinton did over d.l. nt

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

19. Who didn't know that was coming? (Why not prepare for it?)

[Joe the Revelator]

18. The Drivers license question is killing off everyone

Why didn't Obama's people have an answer ready for this?

[polichick]

20. They're all doing badly on this...

Clinton was smart to just say "no." Biden too.

[flpoljunkie]

24. Didn't they all say "yes" last week, except for Chris Dodd. Some major flip-flopping going on here!

[ClarkUSA]

28. Obama said yes, eventually.

Q7 to OBAMA: Immigration and benefits to illegal immigrants.

OBAMA: Immediately recognizes that immigration is a labor issue as much as a migration issue. Need
comprehensive reform. 1) Tighten borders. 2) Crack down on bad apple employers. 3) Path to legalization
for those who are here illegally.

Wolfie natters on about drivers license nonsense.

OBAMA: Says he supported licenses for undocumented in past -- but that drivers licenses don't really matter -
- the issue is labor markets, dipshit! (ED: Way to go, Barack!)

Wolfie, being a dick, presses on licenses. Yes or No?

EDWARDS says no, but rejects premise. DODD no. OBAMA yes, eventually. HILLARY no. KUCINICH objects to "illegal,"
says NAFTA should be cancelled, doesn't really answer. RICHARDSON yes. BIDEN no.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

21. mark of a bad candidate... fighting for time to talk about a loser issue

[ronnykmarshall]

22. Wolf's a moron!

He's lost control of this.

[Joe the Revelator]

25. From the very get go...worst moderator this season.

nt

[ronnykmarshall]

39. He's so shitty.

Keep the debates on MSNBC. Much better coverage. La Wolfy just likes the sound of his own voice.

[polichick]

23. Kucinich is really stiff tonight. nt

[benny05]

26. Problem with merit pay

and with what is not being addressed...parents expect a lot for a little.

[Joe the Revelator]

27. This is turning into Biden's coming out party nt

[Think82]

53. It's about friggin' time!

BIDEN 08!

[walk softly]

64. GOOGLE

Biden 2005 Bankruptcy Bill

[Clintonista2]

29. I can't believe all the time richardson/biden are getting

They've gotten more time in this debate so far than all the other debates combined!

[Joe the Revelator]

30. Some of these questions are absurd...

and I don't say that because Obama just got one. Hillary has gotten some dumb ones as well. If Russert was piling on Hillary, Wolf's just trying to get ANYONE to fuck up.

[Joe the Revelator]

31. Is Dodd really coming out against free elections?

Ballsy.

[ruggerson]

32. Hillary, Biden and Dodd are on their game, OBama and Richardson are not

n/t

[ruggerson]

34. Edwards is coming across as forceful and succinct

n/t

[Clintonista2]

37. I think both Obama and Edwards were surprised by Hillary's response to their attacks

They expected her to just shut up and take it.

[ClarkUSA]

60. Too bad Obama is giving nuanced, comphrehensive answers not soundbites.

A clear no-no in a debate format (recalling Wes Clark in the 2004 debates).

[Catherine Vincent]

33. Is Senator Hillary always stationed next to O'bama during the debates? nt

[Clintonista2]

44. I don't know, but I bet they make obscene gestures towards eachother behind that podium

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Joe the Revelator]

35. Kucinich is wierd tonight.

Hello, Hello

[Clintonista2]

38. Wolsh, I dunno what the deal is but

Me and you are having the exact same thoughts on all of this lol.

[Joe the Revelator]

I'm inside your head...

...freaking you out. ;)

That and I take off my partisan pants (for the most part) during the debates. I think you do to a certain extint as well.

[MichDem10]

36. Moderators suck!! Equal time for ALL candidates!!

[Clintonista2]

42. I think the moderators have been very fair this debate with regards to time

[StrongBad]

40. Kucinich looks listless

He seems off tonight, but maybe he's just pissed because he's treated as a non-entity by the moderators.

[Joe the Revelator]

41. He looks really bad in the HD

Jowley and old.

[Catherine Vincent]

45. LOL!

[Tellurian]

43. Dodd gave Edwards a major smackdown...falling short of telling him to cut the crap

of slinging mud and get down to the issues.

The content of Edwards statements are so far off the mark he is an absolute JOKE!
He's been feeding this pablum to the masses for so long he's lost sight of anything new as an offering of solutions to the essence of the problems proffered with each of Bitzer's questions.

Kuchinich just called Edwards on his hypocrisy! Good!

Watch him worm his way out of responsibility for his China Vote!

Just answer the question Johnny...Yes or NO!

[Joe the Revelator]

46. What did Dennis just say when Edwards was responding???

His panties are all in a bunch tonight.

[ruggerson]

48. He's coming across as petulant

[Joe the Revelator]

49. I think he's drunk tonight.

I really really do.

[polichick]

50. I think he's pissed-mad, rather than pissed-drunk. nt

[Debi]

69. Product liability

More trial lawyer bs....stupid. Trial lawyers are not the devil.

[polichick]

47. Edwards just made some great points about univ. healthcare and NAFTA...

And the fact that we got one but not the other during the Clinton admin.

[GreenArrow]

51. all while try to avoid the question about his China vote

.

[polichick]

52. True dat! :)

[polichick]

54. Hillary was great on the baby boom and the boys' club issues! nt

[Joe the Revelator]

55. Strange exchange between Hillary and CambellBrown

Caaambell <sly look>

[polichick]

56. Hillary was calling her on her shit I think. nt

[Tellurian]

66. An easy response would have been to remind Campbell of Barbara Walters..

when Barbara Walters broke through the glass ceiling of the all boys network and became the first female news anchor on a major network to hold that position.. Hillary did well anyway!

[polichick]

68. That would've been good too...

But it was pretty clever of Hillary ~ like Campbell doesn't know exactly what the boys' club is. DUH!

[Joe the Revelator]

57. Is this debate commercial free?

because i need some water.

[Joe the Revelator]

58. Whats with the dopey booing everytime someone talks ill of Hillary

Plants

[Connie_Corleone]

63. I told my aunt the same thing.

[ClarkUSA]

65. WTF? Edwards got booed for pointing out that Hillary took money from lobbyists?

Plants, indeed.

[polichick]

59. Edwards shoulda left that one alone; he actually got booed...

People are getting sick of the attacks.

[Tellurian]

62. If he tells everyone one more time, when he's president..he's gonna,,

I hope they Boo that asshole right off the stage. He can't answer a straight question Y/N if his life depends on it. He can't let up. He's either got to sling mud at Hillary or tell us what he's gonna do as president..

His presidential run IS OVER! You've just watched a candidate self-destruct in front of your eyes tonight.

[mtnsnake]

61. I think this is the first debate that is actually a real debate or close to being one anyway

Great job by the moderators tonight. They are leagues ahead of Russert and company.

[polichick]

70. Kucinich is correct on so many things...

But he really is coming off strange tonight.

[ClarkUSA]

71. All the candidates are doing well. The questions from the audience are better than Woof's.

Woof's gotcha questions failed miserably.