Biden: Anybody need some coffee?

[DeepModem Mom]

CNN: November 23, 2007
Biden: Anybody need some coffee?


Sen. Biden spent Thanksgiving in Iowa.

(CNN) — While many of the 2008 Presidential candidates briefly abandoned the campaign trail in exchange for spending time with their loved ones on Thanksgiving, Sen. Joe Biden was in Urbandale, Iowa, demonstrating the true meaning of public service.

Armed with a with coffee pot and a smile, Biden maneuvered his way through the tables of a restaurant wishing patrons, “Happy Thanksgiving,” and asking if anyone needed a refill on their coffee.

As he walked through the crowded restaurant, Biden didn’t overlook an opportunity to discuss among other things, the need for updated armor to protect military vehicles in Iraq. He was still holding a pot of coffee as he stopped to tell one table, “Seventy-five percent of the kids killed today are killed by road side bombs, riding around in vehicles that weren't designed to protect them.”

Biden, who has been a strong advocate for increased funding for updated armor, kept his comments brief this holiday as he grabbed a fresh pot of coffee and moved on to the next table.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/23/biden-anybody-need-some-coffee/

[1corona4u]

1. A totally different kind of

campiagn....that's for sure...:loveya:

[Didereaux]

2. old time politickin' It works!

[frogcycle]

3. damn, I hope so

Of all the political figures jockeying for attention, I would be by far the most thrilled to have Joe Biden offer to refill my coffee cup. What a neat gimmick.

[Frustratedlady]

6. I'd rather he'd sit down and have a cup of coffee, after he filled the cups.

I think an "off-the-cuff" conversation with Joe would be very enlightening. I listened in on one of his conference calls, and it was very interesting and sincere. No speech, just talking...well, he talked, we listened.

Can you imagine how frustrating it must be for these candidates to see that toad sitting in the Oval Office and wasting 8 years, when they could do it so much better?

[frogcycle]

25. well, yeah

that too!

If I lived in Iowa I'd be making all sorts of noise about hosting a caucus or whatever the heck it is they do there to lure candidates to schmooze.

Quaint though it might be in this day of high-tech primaries, the Iowa caucus process really is a good way for real people to evaluate the candidates as people, not as talking heads on television.

[1corona4u]

27. I know...that would be so great....

I'd love to have a conversation with him....

[DeepModem Mom]

4. Note: After posting, CNN added a photo, which I've edited in. nt

[1corona4u]

5. Thanks....n/t.

[David Zephyr]

33. Thanks for the photo and story.

:)

[1corona4u]

45. Great stuff right....n/t.

[inthebrain]

7. Voters in Iowa suffer fatigue in primary day

campaigning like this in Iowa is not always auch a good idea.

The locals get sick of all the ads on television and of seeing your face every fve minutes. These people go through this every cycle. Sopmetimes the best thing to do in Iowa is absultely nothing.

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[inthebrain]

11. Why don't you explain again how the Bankrutcy bill is "friendly" to the poor

Whilst telling the poor to go fuck themselves.

[ginchinchili]

19. That's exactly what the poor will be doing if we don't get a Democrat...

in the White House who can reestablish our nation's fundamentals like health care; a real foreign policy and real national security; serious education reform; reforming our energy policy; and, yes, taking care of our poor. If the fundamentals are not in place and our economy goes south, all this talk about health care and education will be rendered meaningless. Sen. Biden is in a better position to do this than any other candidate.

Now, you can gibber on about bankruptcy as if it's more important than the issues I've mentioned, pretending like nothing matters but the right for everyone to file bankruptcy--and you will--but most people are smarter than that. Most people have a sharper sense of priorities. People may disagree about what our top 2 or 3 priorities should be, but only you, and perhaps a handful like you, consider Joe Biden's position on bankruptcy is worth having a Republican back in the White House. It's also difficult for thinking people to take you seriously because you never discuss solutions to what you repeatedly, ad nauseam, complain about. If our bankruptcy laws were so devastating to the American people, I'm sure it would be a top issue in this campaign. It's not. In fact, I haven't heard one word on it, except from you and that handful of others. Furthermore, if Democrats want to change the bankruptcy laws, well, they're in charge now. They are free to do so. Don't pretend otherwise. But I haven't seen any movement toward that, perhaps because, as I mentioned earlier, Democrats have much higher priorities, like our young soldiers in Iraq being blown to bits, or our teetering economy, or our appalling health care system, or an education system that has our nation slipping behind the rest of the world, or our energy policy that leaves us at the mercy of big oil companies and oil-producing countries that hate Americans.

[inthebrain]

21. Biden will do no such thing

Not at all.

Biden is responsible for out Bankruptcy Laws being as shitty as they are now. I hope he hasn't choked away all that money he recieved from MBNA/Bank of America.

Discuss solutions!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Pffffft.

One does not need to discuss solution to see that Biden is not it.

Way to steal that talking point from the Republicans!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

I have a solution for out bankruptcy laws. How about restoring them to what they were before MBNA/Bank of America fucking BOUGHT Joe Biden. Where people can file chapter 7 without liquidating their homes.

But Joe Biden sure can annoy the fuck out of people for Thanksgiving dinner.

Why not ask Joe Biden a real question? One that I think should be asked to every candidate running in the race.

What issue would you be willing to lose YOUR home over?

I know one candidate that would and has. Biden on the other hand would prefer everyone else lose their homes to the banks so he can stay in office.

[ginchinchili]

22. Again, you're not interested in solutions, therefore, there's no reason to read your posts.

Sorry to put it like this, but you're playing a dumb man's game of swiftboating. It's totally ungrounded, ineffective, and only makes you look inane. You address none of the points I raise because they are true and get in the way of your banal swiftboating, and Democrats are really, really tired of swiftboating, even when presented in the lame, reduced form that you wallow in.

[Froward69]

23. its unfortunate you don't want to pay your bills

from your post you are highly misinformed. "I hope he hasn't choked away all that money he recieved from MBNA/Bank of America.

check it out...
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=F03
why isn't Joe rolling in dough??? you are mistaken.
then

http://biden.senate.gov/newsroom/details.cfm?id=234426&&

now, another thing is the opposition you spew, will not be a hindrance in the GE, sorry just a fact.

[inthebrain]

34. How Republican of you

Sen. Joe Biden (D-Bank of America)
The name has changed, but the commitment to backing powerful credit-card companies over the nation's working poor is still the same.


http://www.attytood.com/archives/002075.html

JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR. (D-DE)
Top Contributors

1
MBNA Corp
$147,700

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.asp?CID=N00001669&cycle=2004

Since 1993, it has been the number one donor to the campaigns of Delware Democratic Sen. Joseph Biden. MBNA also pays Biden's son, a corporate lawyer, $100,000 a year as a "retainer" for services as a "consultant." In return, Biden has been, according to the Times, a "consistent advocate for MBNA.

He has actively supported the proposed Bankruptcy Reform Act, a favorite piece of legislation among credit card companies that would make it more difficult for consumers to escape credit card debt. Biden even tried to get the new bankruptcy law passed by tacking it onto a foreign relations bill in 2000.

Most outrageous of all is the fact that everything Cawley is doing is perfectly legal. After all, it’s the political lackeys at MBNA who make all the laws.

http://www.socialistworker.org/2004-1/491/491_02_BuyingPoliticians.shtml

[Froward69]

46. ha ha ha thats a good one...

it still wont be a hindrance in the GE. as well as you forgot to show anyone else's contributions??
in My business Classes I was taught how to Hide my assets to bolster the bottom line.
new rules make that more difficult.

from your latest post... would make it more difficult for consumers to escape credit card debt.Answer, How aboutcutting up the cards, how about paying it off? or even in my industry I am a landlord. the new rules help to keep me paid for my services. Just like small plumbing businesses. we all like to get paid for our services. if you were to go into private practice, as say a home hospice nurse you would like to get paid also. wouldn't ya?

the new rules make that easier for all of us...

i think you are afraid of Biden taking profit out of health care? you did say you were a nurse. so you support what? hillarys plan that MANDATES health insurance?
or complain about this... Joe Biden is for curbing this type of outre need.
http://www.opensecrets.org/overview/stats.asp?cycle=2008&type=A&display=A

you spew without supporting anything or anyone...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jilpix0_6P8

[ginchinchili]

53. Again, you're not interested in solutions, therefore, there's no reason to read your posts.

It bears repeating. You offer nothing to this conversation. No solutions, no perspective, not even what other candidates are pushing. You don't even address the plain and simple fact that the Democrats are now in charge and have every opportunity to change the bankruptcy laws. It's a non-issue.

[frogcycle]

56. "escape credit card debt"

you want to explain how that is supposed to be a right? Where I was raised you paid your bills. People who run up outrageous debt on credit cards are either irresponsible, stupid, or sick. Making it easy for them to just walk away from it is hardly fair to the responsible people who have to pay it off through higher rates (you don't think the banks were absorbing that, do you?). Bankruptcy should be reserved for the rare and extreme calamitous circumstance, not part of one's financial planning.

[grasswire]

54. I may put my first DU-er on ignore (eom)

[frogcycle]

55. you got that right!

it has become standard that at the mention of ANY candidate, the greek chorus chimes in with the same old talking points, but nastier each time. This place has become totally unappealing. I drop in once or twice a week, sometimes sign in if compelled to make a response. But is usually all I have to say is "I can't believe how stupid this thread is" or "what a complete a-h" so I just leave.

[monmouth]

9. Sorry, Joe isn't that way. From what I've read the customers were

thrilled to see and hear from him. Why do you think they were there?? Go Joe!!

[inthebrain]

10. To eat dinner

Iowan's aren't like the people in the North East where we are conditioned to tell people to "fuck off!!!" on a whim. Politeness is the rule of the day.

Ever see what these people have to say about the candidates after they pull these publicity stunts?

It's called a photo op. People see right through it.

[Byronic]

12. Good grief inthebrain

I realize that you dislike Joe Biden with quite a passion. That is evident from your posts about him.

I get that you don't want Biden to be president.

But, now you won't even let him pour the coffee?

Poor Joe.

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[Byronic]

14. Sound advice

I just think inthebrain does Biden a grave disservice.

It is clear to me that Joe Biden is the most qualified candidate to serve coffee in this race.

He has served coffee for over 35 years. He knows how every single world leader likes their coffee.

He can join the dots: from coffee beans, boiling water, milk or cream to sugar.

There's no doubt about it: Joe can serve a mean cup of coffee.





:)

[1corona4u]

18. Amen!! n/t

[ginchinchili]

20. LOL, excellent post, and I concur. That's what I'd call a cup o' Joe!

[David Zephyr]

35. Cup of Joe.

That was good.

[Steely_Dan]

39. LOLOLOLOL

Wonderful post.

-Paige

[saltpoint]

59. Yes. Joe knows his Joe. Other candidates may or may not know jack about

Joe, but Joe is at one with Joe, whether pouring it or brewing it.

[inthebrain]

17. You think pepole sit down to thanksgiving dinner because they want to talk politics?

You people fall for photo ops sometimes just as Bush does.

And Joe Biden represents EVERYTHING that is wrong with this party. But of course, the fake left will play him up as a working man's candidate whenever they can. Biden becomes the nominee this party is back to where it was in 2000.

[jillan]

38. inthebrain - you have become my comic relief at DU!

Thanks :)

[ginchinchili]

15. Joe Biden serving folks coffee. Doesn't sound like something they'd get too annoyed about.

Sen. Biden has a very disarming personality. I doubt if anyone minded. And if they choose not to support him because he poured them a cup of coffee, Americans are free to do so.

[saltpoint]

60. Good point. I hope I'm never at a restaurant where someone flies into a

rage because someone pours them a cup of coffee.

In person, I think the proper response would be to say "Thank you."

If that isn't too traditional.

[gateley]

65. God - we ALL do! My hat is off to the Iowans who are willing to expend the

energy to participate. I can't even imagine.

[donsu]

16. Biden also served truth with the coffee

nt

[rAVES]

24. Color me cynical...

[Bucky]

29. Why, just because he doesn't have any loved ones he wants to be with?

Bah, he'll celebrate Thanksgiving next year when we'll all have something to be grateful for.

Go Joe!

[rAVES]

30. No, because people go "OMG he's so nice"

like as if he'd be doing that if he wasn't campaigning.. I have an aversion to photo ops.

[Bucky]

31. Quick, name for me the politician who *doesn't* do photo ops

Times up. Such a politician does not exist.

[rAVES]

32. I'd rather hear something solid rather the Photo ops and propaganda about Iran.

[Bucky]

37. But those are available too. Candidates do make substantive statements.

They just do photo ops to sell them. You can't just sell corn flakes. You got to print a lot of pretty colors on the box if you want to move product.

[ginchinchili]

63. Propaganda about Iran? Now you have Biden confused w/another candidate.

Biden and Kucinich are probably the least scripted candidates running.

[inthebrain]

36. Nobody says they don't

but to play it p as something meaningfull is absolutely absurd and beyond ridiculous.

Looking at Joe Biden serving coffee as if it's something for the patrons rather than Joe is beyond naive.

[jillan]

41. He was raising money for underprivledged children.

[Steely_Dan]

42. Such Venom

Let me ask you. If Biden becomes the nominee, can we count on your vote? Or will you be voting for the Republican nominee.

-Paige

[rAVES]

57. Oh for crying out loud...the day I give in to party politics is the day i shoot myself in the face

because thats what you're doing to your country by supporting the likes of biden and hillary... non capital intentional

[Think82]

43. I think you have a man-crush on Biden, and don't know how to deal, inthebrain

[saltpoint]

61. Iowa Democrats are an astute bunch, inthebrain. My guess is they have the

full measure of things out there in that beautiful state with the cornfields and soybean fields and summertime softball leagues.

These folks know what's going on.

Your assault on Joe Biden in this thread is untoward. May I humbly suggest you consider the public record of Mayor Giuliani, who is far more deserving of your disregard and rudeness?

In fact, just about anyone in the Republican field would be a rich source if you wanted to lay into somebody.

A lot of extraordinarily well-informed and long-standing progressive Democrats find significant value in Biden's candidacy.

You might ask yourself if your judgment is really superior to theirs.

[1corona4u]

47. Usually...

with a "photo op" the candidate is posed. Joe looks to be actually be pouring the coffee, instead of standing there holding the pot with a goofy look on his face, like most of the other candidates do. This was an candid photo....you can actually see the coffee going right into the cup....there is a difference.

[ginchinchili]

62. He's simply doing what he can to aquaint himself to the people.

Perhaps you prefer a big multi-dollar ad campaign? Talking to the people face to face is what the Iowa caucus race is all about. I mean really, what the hell do you want Sen. Biden to do? He has neither the personal fortune nor the campaign coffers that the over-hyped front runners have. Give the guy a little credit for a change. Lord knows he's worked harder for it than anyone else who's running.

[rucky]

26. A Cup of Joe. n/t

[1corona4u]

28. LOL....so true...n/t

[jillan]

40. He was doing this as a fundraiser to raise $$ for underprivledged children.

How UNselfish is that? He should be raising money for his own campaign.

http://blog.joebiden.com/index.php?paged=2
On Thanksgiving Day, the Bidens will volunteer at the Machine Shed Restaurant, located at Living History Farms in Urbandale. This free Thanksgiving event is open to the entire Des Moines community and the benefits go towards a summer camp for underprivileged children – sponsored by the Living History Farms.

[alfredo]

44. As soon as there was a lull, Biden and the busboy

went out back by the dumpster and smoked a joint.

[Froward69]

48. I like Him even more!!!

wish we all could...

[alfredo]

49. My wife has gone from a Hillary supporter to a Biden supporter. Me,

I will go with who is selected at our convention.

[1corona4u]

50. LOL...

she's a smart lady. Better keep her around...;)

[Froward69]

51. i couldent agree more.

She (your wife alfredo)is a keeper. possibly even, your better half? :D

[alfredo]

52. Sure is a keeper

[ginchinchili]

64. Your wife is wise.

[saltpoint]

58. I read your OP here, DeepModem Mom, with appreciation. Thank you

for posting the spirit of the voting process at its best, and for allowing a good man a good light.

I'm voting to recommend the post.