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Fri Nov-23-07 10:46 AM
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If Obama gets the nomination, who does he need as VP? |
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because I don't care how you try and slice it, he will get shit from both the repukes and the MSM for being inexperienced. I think if he wins the nom, he's going to need someone with really strong foreign and domestic policy creds; who could that be?
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Fri Nov-23-07 10:48 AM
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Fri Nov-23-07 10:48 AM
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Plus, he would "balance" the ticket as he is from the East Coast.
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Fri Nov-23-07 10:49 AM
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2. Kucinich or Biden, I would hope... |
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Fri Nov-23-07 10:50 AM
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That is just my opinion. Not based on data and polls. IF he gets the nod, he would be wise to pick Biden. Biden would balance the scales so to speak.
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Fri Nov-23-07 10:53 AM
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4. Yes, he will need someone with a lot of experience |
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and I doubt we will have a ticket without a white male on it. Who will it be? Probably not Richardson, Edwards or Clinton.
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Fri Nov-23-07 10:54 AM
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5. Biden gave Bush war powers against Iraq knowing |
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full well they didn't have WMDs.
That was well known to everyone in government that that claim was absolutely BS.
His experience doesn't count for squat. The only one up there with real experience to speak for is Kucinich. That dude stared down the moce while refusing to cave to a greedy corporation. He even wound up homeless afterwards for it.
Biden's "experience" doesn't speak well for him if he constantly makes poor decisions.
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Fri Nov-23-07 11:01 AM
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Edited on Fri Nov-23-07 11:02 AM by Inuca
If you look for perfection, do not look among politicians. Biden has made some bad choices, the famous vote is one of them, but is completely incorrect to say that that he constantly makes poor decisions.
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Fri Nov-23-07 11:21 AM
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26. I disagree; Colin Powell getting up in front of the UN with his little |
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vials practically swearing there were WMDs convinced a lot of people because no one thought he could be wrong. So no, it was not well-known in government, not by everyone. Skeptics were right to be skeptical, others got played. I place most of the blame on this admin who intentionally lied. Why they're not paying for that I'll never know.
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Fri Nov-23-07 10:54 AM
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Fri Nov-23-07 10:55 AM
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7. Biden, Dodd, Feingold. nt |
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Fri Nov-23-07 10:57 AM
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10. Feingold needs to stay where he is |
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Fri Nov-23-07 10:58 AM
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12. Good point. He's a lone voice at times, and we need that. nt |
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Fri Nov-23-07 11:03 AM
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17. I actually think Richardson would be the best bet. n/t |
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Fri Nov-23-07 10:56 AM
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8. I think we can rule out Hillary Clinton nt |
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Fri Nov-23-07 10:57 AM
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9. Biden would be an excellent choice |
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though IMHO the other way around would make more sense.
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Fri Nov-23-07 11:01 AM
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However, if Obama is going to be the first Black leader, it will be as prez, not veep. If he's going to break the glass ceiling, he isn't going to crack it, he wants to shatter it.
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Fri Nov-23-07 10:58 AM
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11. kucinich would be nice |
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that would make me believe that the ticket was serious about restoring the COnstitution and the rule of law.
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Fri Nov-23-07 10:58 AM
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13. To everyone suggesting Biden, my guess is Biden wouldn't |
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accept it. And for those advocating Kucinich, that's even more unlikely.
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Fri Nov-23-07 11:06 AM
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about Biden not accepting it. It may not be worth his leaving the very powerful position he has in the Senate, and he is too old for the next round unless God forbid we do not win next year.
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Fri Nov-23-07 11:01 AM
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NOT!
(Biggest mistake Gore ever made. Well, that and NAFTA.)
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Fri Nov-23-07 11:13 AM
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22. LOL! You made me look.. |
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Fri Nov-23-07 11:14 AM
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Somehow I managed to post to my own reply...
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Fri Nov-23-07 11:05 AM
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Fellow outsider/not overly tainted by years inside the Beltway. Veteran with good instincts on defense. Puts Virginia in the win column.
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Fri Nov-23-07 11:09 AM
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20. His lack of experience would be questioned, I think, though |
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I really do like him and expect he'll have a great future. Then again, stranger things have happened. Two fresh faces would be...refreshing.
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Fri Nov-23-07 11:14 AM
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24. I only hope we get to that point |
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Edited on Fri Nov-23-07 11:15 AM by BeyondGeography
If we do (and Obama is the nominee), I think he'll make the right decision.
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Fri Nov-23-07 11:12 AM
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but for one thing, he's only been a dem for a short period of time, and for another he doesn't have enough experience. As Obama is pretty much still a beltway outsider anyway, what would be the point?
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Fri Nov-23-07 11:19 AM
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25. "Outsider" is the point |
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Webb's new-to-the-party status is a good fit with Obama's pledge to reduce partisanship. Can't run on "change you can believe in" and pick a lifer like Biden. If you want an experienced Washington hand, Feingold (or someone else with a strong record of reform) makes more sense.
Also, Obama's foreign policy/national security bona fides will be a target; that's where Webb really makes sense.
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Fri Nov-23-07 11:30 AM
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Fri Nov-23-07 11:31 AM
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28. Obama would need a southerner |
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Frankly, I don't know of any other than Clark. Neither Biden nor Dodd would balance the ticket. The northeast is easy to win. You need a conservative state like Ohio to work. Richardson would bring New Mexico but might lose support elsewhere. He has not shown himself to make a really strong impression on television in spite of his distinguished record and wealth of experience. He just does not have the personality. There may be less known politicians who would make a great vice president.
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Fri Nov-23-07 11:56 AM
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29. Clark if he could get him |
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An older white male with Southern roots and very solid national security and foreign policy credentials would help offset many of Obama's perceived weaknesses.
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Fri Nov-23-07 02:05 PM
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31. :) I really like Bruce Babbitt |
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It is a shame that Bill Clinton didn't call the Republican's bluff and appoint him to the Supreme Court.
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Fri Nov-23-07 02:07 PM
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32. Richardson or Bob Graham |
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He needs to pick up Hispanic votes or Florida.
He will not pick another senator.
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Fri Nov-23-07 02:57 PM
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33. I might go with Richardson if he wants the job. |
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Foreign policy experience, plus a compatible personality.
Barack Obama and Joe Biden probably would not get along really well.
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Fri Nov-23-07 03:37 PM
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34. Wes Clark would make a lot of sense |
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he surely needs someone with a lot of foreign policy experience. Biden would make sense, but he's too much of a loose cannon. Webb would be an interesting choice.
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He seems like he would be an excellent choice. Not only does he bring the foreign policy experience but he also balances the ticket as as Southerner.
I also like Dodd but I don't know if Obama would want a white Northeastern senator on the bottom half of the ticket.
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Fri Nov-23-07 08:08 PM
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Gore could be his Cheney. He could rope him in by saying he could do the same as VP as he is doing now, but with the full backing of the office of the President. I know its a long shot, but Obama/Gore wins in a landslide right?
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Fri Nov-23-07 08:10 PM
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39. Max Cleland would be great.. |
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having those 2 on the same ticket would bring out the best in our party and country. another possibility would be a Governor like Kathleen Sebelius or Janet Napolitano. this would focus our efforts on something Obama mentions in one of his books, the importance of the Democratic party building a new political coalition that can last for decades.
the New Deal Coalition did this until the 60's and 70's, since then we have been holding together an outdated political alliance instead of experimenting with bringing in younger and idealistic voters.
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Fri Nov-23-07 08:12 PM
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40. Senator Jim Webb, hands down. |
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Webb likes Obama's foreign policy ideas and they are friends. They both have charisma and Webb will help turn Virginia blue. And no one can question Webb's foreign policy know-how because of his background and since he, like Obama, objected to IWR from the beginning. Both of them also attract loads of crossover votes, something others cannot claim.
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Fri Nov-23-07 08:45 PM
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41. Clark is already supporting Hillary |
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so I think he'd be out. Webb is a good pick, IMO.
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Fri Nov-23-07 09:41 PM
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43. No reason for Clark to be out just because he's supporting Hillary now. nt |
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