Is there a current Democratic presidential candidate who is NOT Christian?

[Colobo]

If there is one, I would love to hear from him/her ASAP.

[Bluebear]

1. No but there are plenty who are religous but don't throw gays & women under the bus

because of their faith.

[BlueJazz]

4. Yep....and they also don't try to Cram it down everybody else's throats.

[pnwmom]

19. Who? n/t

[LeftyMom]

5. Or in spite of, in the case of one member of the United Church of Christ,

which is a denomination officially supportive of equal marriage.

[Warpy]

7. It's too bad the televangelists have given Christians such a bad name

and that they've been allowed to do so for decades in the name of misplaced Christian solidarity.

I'm perfectly fine with any flavor of believer who realizes that belief ends at the surface of his or her own sin, that they can't outlaw either sin or whom their faith tells them are sinners, and who are equally happy to keep the wall between church and state so that they, too, will be allowed to worship according to the dictates of their own consciences.

[polichick]

2. I wish...

Personally, I'm sick of hearing about their religion ~ and I want it the hell out of government!

[flvegan]

3. Define "Christian"?

Is that someone that upholds true Christ-like values and actions, or someone that plays a role and wears a nametag?

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[Colobo]

8. It seems like he had no religion before converting into Christianity.

[CnAnPB]

9. Has Obama ever

address this, because I've read so much bullshit concerning his 'conversion.'

[Colobo]

10. Here

http://obama.senate.gov/speech/060628-call_to_renewal/index.php

[LeftyMom]

11. here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama#Personal_life

" In Chapter 6 of the book, titled "Faith," Obama writes that he "was not raised in a religious household." He describes his mother, raised by non-religious parents, as detached from religion, yet "in many ways the most spiritually awakened person that I have ever known." He describes his Kenyan father as "raised a Muslim," but a "confirmed atheist" by the time his parents met, and his Indonesian step-father as "a man who saw religion as not particularly useful." The chapter details how Obama, in his twenties, while working with local churches as a community organizer, came to understand "the power of the African American religious tradition to spur social change." Obama writes: "It was because of these newfound understandings—that religious commitment did not require me to suspend critical thinking, disengage from the battle for economic and social justice, or otherwise retreat from the world that I knew and loved—that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity United Church of Christ one day and be baptized."<139>

Despite Obama's Christian faith, he has been the target of false Internet rumors since 2004 which say that he is a secret Muslim.<140>"

[ripple]

15. There WAS no conversion

Obama attended a couple of different religious schools in India as a young child. That is the norm there. One school was Muslim and one was Catholic, I believe. After that, he wasn't really religious at all until he got involved with the Christian church in Chicago during his time as a community organizer.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

13. never a moslem

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[Basileus Basileon]

22. Sort of. It was a mixed public school, in which there was no religious indoctrination,

though it was nominally affiliated with Islam. Obama was never a Muslim.

[snowbear]

23. Basileaus is right on!

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CNN debunks false report about Obama:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/

[pnwmom]

21. His mother's family were Christians, and they raised him.

He briefly attended a Muslim school while living in a Muslim country (and also a Catholic school), but he was wasn't Muslim.

[JohnnyLib2]

12. Your post led me to speculate--

is the U.S. anywhere close to electing a non-Christian president? Seems unlikely at first thought.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

14. Not since Joe Lieberman in 2004

[Dhalgren]

17. Is Joe not a Christian? According to the latest "Mother Jones"

he is a member of Senator Clinton's prayer "cell", along with numerous Republican fascists.

[Colobo]

20. Joe is Jewish.

[snowbear]

27. Joe who?

Biden ---> <-- or LIEberman

[Skittles]

18. the ones who voted for IWR

a real Christian would NEVER have done that

[PurityOfEssence]

24. Are you aware of the difference between this and Shinola? That's not the issue.

The issue is whether they all feel free to use that as leverage to get elected. John Edwards has been very pointed about that, and he brings up the term "separation of church and state" on a regular basis.

Hillary Clinton is playing the bullshit religion card, too; she's just doing it more subtly than Obama is and is having it done more by proxy.

This is sloppy equivalency and is ridiculous in its tiresomeness. The snake-oil tour in South Carolina was nauseating: this is aggressive hucksterism of the worst sort.

It's precisely because of this feeling that religion is "better" than non-religion that so many people have to run scared in this country. To my knowledge, the ONLY one of the 535 members of Congress who openly admits he doesn't believe is Pete Stark, and this is a guy who JUST did it, and only after he was confronted on it publicly and then only after being elected to the House SEVENTEEN times straight. He may well be the first member of Congress to have EVER admitted this, and that alone should show you the ugliness wielded by the religious crazies in this country.

To try to dismiss Obama's crossing of the line (in a BIG way, mind you) by stating that all other candidates are christians too shows that you either don't understand the point at all or have no scruples when advancing your champion. This is just plain silly.

[NMMNG]

25. Amen

So to speak.

The Dems bought the notion that they have to crow about their "faith" constantly to win, and that politics must be infused with religion to keep America from going to hell in a hand basket. Now anybody who doesn't walk the walk and talk the talk can essentially forget about being elected. And non-Christian voters may as well forget about their needs and desires.

[jonnyblitz]

29. damn, what a good post. nt

[Bluebear]

30. Amen. As it were. nt

[goodgd_yall]

26. A self-professed one?

Or a real one?

[MonkeyFunk]

28. No

You didn't know that?