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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:24 PM Original message |
Black voters tilt toward Clinton: study |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. This is a very interesting demographic, |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. LOL at this statement: |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. They support her based on her history, not her skin color |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I don't believe that for a second. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. says you. THEY say something different. Fact remains, though... |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. No. They like her HUSBAND better than they even KNOW Obama. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. you have ZERO evidence of your claim. More Obamalogic and wishful thinking |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Are you saying Black people know Obama as much/well as they know Bill Clinton? |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Hail to the Chief! Madam President.. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Hillary is 60. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
55. Thanks for posting the very best of your.. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #55 |
91. Just trying to relate to you by staying on your level. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
44. I know you and I have no reason or right to second guess their stated reasons for supporting Hillary |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. You don't know me at ALL. But you SHOULD know that Bill Clinton is better known than Obama... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. I don't have to know you at all to know you have no right to second guess their stated reasons. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #53 |
66. You said you know me. And I'm not 2nd guessing their reasons-I'm |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. LOL. No I didn't. Read the post title again |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #70 |
85. LOL...yes you did: |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. LOL! You STILL didn't read the post. Do I have to translate it for you? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. LOL! You said "I know you" and then you deny saying "I know you" when it's there |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. yeah, like you said Black people know Obama as much/well as they know Bill Clinton. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. I said they DON'T know Obama as much/well as they know Bill Clinton. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. post #27. Your words are there for everyone to see. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. No. YOU took words out to change the sentence which was, " Are you saying Black people know Obama |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. and you are purposely misinterpreting what I wrote (shrug) |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. YOU WROTE "I know you" and I did not take that out of context... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. the point it, you DID take it out of context as I explained twice |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. No I didn't. Not at all. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. yes you did. Completely |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 06:41 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. Wrong. Next time, don't say you know me if you don't want to say you know me. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. Wrong, I never said I knew you. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:12 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. Yes you did. Post #44. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:21 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. No I didn't. Post #88 |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:24 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Post #88 had words in parentheses trying to "explain" why you wrote "I know you..." |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. exactly. Since you purposely misconstrued it... |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #120 |
129. Um, maybe next time you should say what you mean, like, "I've read enough of your posts to know that |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. No, it's because of her husband n/t |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. says you. THEY say something different. |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. Actuall they don't n/t |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I guess you need to re-read the OP UNLESS you have some secret insider info to share? |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. You wouldn't understand n/t |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. LOL! Some mystic revelations I guess |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. Like I said.............I know you Wolf |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. sure you do. (wink) Hey, remember to polish that crystal ball tonight |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. No crystal ball needed, I just what post on this board n/t |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. you "just what post on this board???" |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Aw man, you couldn't figure it ou? Wait til you make a typo |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. actually, no. I have no idea what you meant to post (and I make typos constantly) |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Oh well |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #61 |
73. Who needs a crystal ball |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Whoa cuke, where did this come from and was it necessary? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. If your argument is "You wouldn't understand", don't expect support from me |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. I was talking to Wolf and not you |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. It's a public discussion board |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #86 |
96. Of course it's a public board but know what you're talking about before you jump in |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. in post #6, did you not join into a discussion between me and someone else? |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #89 |
97. What's your point wolf? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. you called down cuke for doing the same thing you did, cott. |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. I knew what I was talking about so it's not the same |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. so did cuke, as he explained. |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Not true but believe what you want |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. it isn't difficult to follow a thread and then comment on it. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Not true. It's very difficult. Ellacott is the only one capable of such a feat |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. Where did I say that |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #105 |
113. Never said it WAS difficult |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #113 |
130. You criticized me for doing what you did |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. "An obvious fact (IMO)" LOL! |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. What does that mean |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Thank you |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
43. Oprah isn't Obama's wife. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Exactly. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. An obvious fact? Yikes. Learn what a fact is. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. It went right over your head... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Sorry, it's about the placement of your little winky face |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Where was I SUPPOSED to place it to make you believe me? |
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jaysunb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. I haven't seen or heard this among the Black folk I know. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. We don't capitalize colors. |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
40. But we do capitalize White... |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. I have yet to meet a Hillary supporter either n/t |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. I have yet to be anywhere where people aren't vastly supporting her more & more |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. And you need to stop trying to be clever |
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ilovesunshine (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
34. I'm in Arizona and have met a lot of Hillary supporters. |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
37. Now you have. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
93. I know a lot of Hillary supporters, |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. oh, boy, another "informal poll at thanksgiving." |
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jaysunb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
54. You'll believe it after the Iowa Caucus. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
8. Sounds like the same line used against liberalism |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Obama says we don't have to talk, walk, or vote like George Bush Republicans to win. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
74. But he says that and then he talks like a republican |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. No, he doesn't. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. His Jesus pronouncements and comparisons to Joshua are just like repukes |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Faith doesn't have a party affiliation. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. No, I'll just vote for a Democratic candidate that doesn't sound like a repuke |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
18. This means the anti-Hillarites are saying black Americans are stupid--without realizing it. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. yep. |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. huh??????? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. "progressives"* know best. Them naive black people need to listen to us... |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Progressives and democrats, there you go again |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I'm a Democrat. And yes, I do feel "progressives"* think they need to guide other people... |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Sorry but that's not totally true |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. It's completely true |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. This has nothing to do with netroots. People have had this opinion |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. by saying their stated reasons for supporting Clinton are not true, you're calling them liars |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. If I said that you would be correct |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. that is what this subthread is about. Why were you arguing this point if you didn't believe it? |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. Never argued that point. You are the one calling people liars |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. post #6 - you said they only support her because of her husband |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Jeeze, you're predictable |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. While you are NOT! Whats with the Hillary is Satan thread? |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. I'll admit that I'm predictable |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #50 |
65. A poor excuse is better than no excuse at all... |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
77. A bit hypocritical too |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:19 AM Response to Reply #77 |
123. See right above this |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
94. Yep. |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
42. There goes the media again . . . playing the race card! |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #42 |
69. So very true |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #42 |
106. Seriously |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
45. Well having Biden in the race probably limits most people options |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
60. I watched the pollster on CSPAN this morning |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
63. It's Big Dog. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
76. The same article also says... |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. There's a lot of truth to that |
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bigdarryl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
115. DIDN'T JESSE GET MOST OF THE BLACK VOTE AND STILL LOST THE NOMINATION |
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Sultana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
121. It's the "Clinton" name |
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neutron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
122. Clinton's office has been in Harlem |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #122 |
124. Poor black families have been forced out because rents have increased up to 100% |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #124 |
125. You're not blaming Clinton for this, are you? |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #125 |
126. I'm saying it was a factor |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #126 |
127. Anyone who suggests that "all black people" feel or do anything should probably be ignored |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #127 |
128. Very true n/t |
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