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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:37 PM
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From Fact Check.org. Rudy lied AGAIN!
The Not-Quite Truth About NYC
November 27, 2007
Giuliani twists facts about crime and liberalism in the Big Apple.

Summary
Rudy Giuliani's latest TV ad falsely claims New York City experienced "record crime ... until Rudy." In fact, the city recorded its highest rates of both violent crime and property crime years before he took office. The downward trend was well established before he was sworn in.

The ad also claims New York is "America's most liberal city," but his campaign offers no evidence showing that the city is more liberal than, say, San Francisco; Berkeley; Washington, D.C.; or Detroit, all of which rank as more liberal in a study of voting behavior in the 2004 elections. In that study, New York ranked 21st among cities with populations of more than 100,000.

Giuliani's ad also repeats some boasts we've found to be misleading in the past. It claims he cut taxes by $9 billion but counts several tax cuts that he didn't initiate or sign, and one that he lobbied against before changing course. It also boasts that he cut welfare rolls by 60 percent but fails to note that the reduction in New York was a bit less than it was for the nation as a whole.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:40 PM
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1. They might save on bandwith if they just noted when Rudy told the truth . . .
but I guess they have to have SOME content on the site, so that won't work.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:44 PM
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2. Heck no! If they did that, there's never be any posts! n/t
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:50 PM
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3. Rudi's speeches
are full of lies and distortions. People and the media don't check the facts. Many politicans do this when running for office. They promise what we want to hear but do the opposite when elected.

Some people vote party line no matter who runs for office.

We wanted change in our town so we elected those who promised it. It stayed the same and even got a lot worse. I can't get the zoning laws enforce by the village employees (who don't live here so don't give a crap). Sound familiar?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 12:48 AM
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4. Yes it does, but sites like FactCheck and search engines like
Google and Yahoo are a big help to the voter...at least those who care enough to check. 10+ years ago, if you didn't hear any counter from the media, you would have had a very difficult time finding out what was true and what wasn't!
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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:12 AM
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5. If you repeat the lie often enough, it becomes the truth
---Joseph Goebbles (Hitler's propaganda man)
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:35 AM
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6. "... catapaulting the propaganda"
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:53 AM
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7. And Bush has admitted using the "Goebbles Method ".
The damn fool actually stated that if one repeats something over and over again it becomes believable.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:05 AM
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8. kick
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