Fundie: If we nominate Ghouliani "we will see a bloodbath at the polls like we've never seen before"

[jefferson_dem]

DUBUQUE, IA -- It's no secret that Iowa Christian Alliance president Steve Scheffler isn't a Rudy fan. But tonight, within spitting distance of Giuliani’s rival GOP candidate Romney, Scheffler explicitly urged Iowa Christians to oppose Giuliani in the race for the nomination. "If our party nominates this guy," he told a crowd at a Dubuque gathering of the ICA, "we will see a bloodbath at the polls like we've never seen before."

Scheffler went on to slam Giuliani's position on same-sex marriage, life issues and gun rights. "Rudy Giuliani cannot be elected," he said, citing the ex-mayor's differences with social conservatives. "We cannot afford to nominate somebody who's out of touch with the base."

Scheffler made the remarks at a house party here before introducing Romney, who talked values and faith to Christian activists in Eastern Iowa. He did not comment on Scheffler's remarks when he took the mic himself.

The Iowa Christian Alliance has indicated that it will not endorse a candidate in advance of the Iowa caucuses. But it is widely considered to be one of the most influential organizing forces in the state for evangelical conservatives. Campaigns will likely watch the ICA's candidate briefing booklet -- to be released next Wednesday -- with close attention.

If you needed a sign that Giuliani might be in trouble in Iowa, consider this statement from Scheffler; Giuliani "needs to come in fourth place" in Iowa, he said. "Or," he added wistfully, "even worse."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/01/491439.aspx

[saltpoint]

1. This group is frighteningly well-organized in Iowa. They are frightening,

period.

How creepy that Romney is going to be the (apparent) beneficiary of their wrath against Guiliani.

Creepy stuff.

[robbedvoter]

3. I don't see any GOP alternative to creepy - there are shades of creepy - all of them

Just heard Rue Paul in the debate "I have never seen an abortion that was medically necessary"

[saltpoint]

4. No argument from me on that one!

[Manifestor_of_Light]

17. Ron Paul is an Ob/Gyn M.D. and he's never seen an ectopic pregnancy?

Oh please. That's a medically necessary abortion, and not all that unusual. It happens when the blastocyst implants in the tube instead of the uterus. It can rupture the tube and kill the woman.

[TomInTib]

5. Rudy is blowing the scum to the other end of the pond.

How bizarre.

[saltpoint]

7. LOL! That image is going to stay with me for a long, long time, TomInTib.

Terrific.

[TomInTib]

9. That just came to me while reading your post, O C.

And I thought it was a pretty good fit.

[saltpoint]

11. Tom, it looks for certain that we're on the same page with Rudy.

I would really feel a LOT better if he were not in contention for the White House.

The guy is really repellent.

[TomInTib]

14. I have detested him since he screwed up Times Square.

I mean, how else is a guy gonna have fun in New York City?

Hell, I was reduced to checking out Les Paul's Monday night gigs at Iridium.

[saltpoint]

15. LOL! Times Square. You said it. As seedy as it often could be, it lent a

powerful dynamic to the city. And god knows midtown can use all the dynamic it can get!

A lot of the porn venues were shut down of course, but some many ears ago, Bella Abzug suggested they be moved downtown to the Wall Street area, where the bizness folks could trade stocks during business hours and the porn vendors could open for their mostly-nocturnal customer base, and everyone would be happy.

Anyway, Rudy creeps me out as much as any politician since maybe Nixon, and that's sayin' somethin'.

[baldguy]

2. The real frightening thing is most people use terms like "bloodbath" figuratively.

Not these guys.

[rocktivity]

6. Yo, Scheffley, baby--YOUR BASE ISN'T BIG ENOUGH.

:evilgrin:
rocknation

[Cha]

8. Yeah,

that's great that steve hates rudy ghouli but what does that say about steve that he likes willard the creepy cyborg fascist posing as a Mormon from Utah via Massachusetts?

[Carrieyazel]

10. These whack jobs don't have a clue about who can be elected and who can't.

And what does he mean by "a bloodbath". If any of these delusional scum try to start anything, they must be stopped.

[TheCowsCameHome]

12. Poor cRudey - no one likes him anymore.

Bwahahahahahahahahaha.

[BeyondGeography]

13. Sounds like more Huckmentum to me

[Mz Pip]

16. Mitwit creeps me out more

than Rudy.

Rudy can't claim high moral ground on social issues. Mitwit is so self righteous and arrogant that he has no compassion for anyone who has had to make tough choices in their lives. What choices has Mitwit had to make that were difficult? Which well-off European country to do his 'Mission' in?

Two years in France. Bummer.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[saltpoint]

18. We're a month away before the first votes are cast in 2008 and Rudy

Giuliani's campaign is really in a spin.

The more public exposure he has the less voters like him.

That's not a very encouraging trend in a political campaign.