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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 11:37 PM
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Do you even know what Comprehensive Immigration Reform means?
People, I'm horrified here. Does anyone realize that Democrats, yes Democrats tried to pass a bill that was loaded with pretty much unlimited H-1B guest worker Visas which are notorious to labor arbitrage, enable offshore outsourcing and displace US professional workers? There was even a brand new Visa which would have given anyone, anyone at all who graduated from anywhere with a Bachelors in Science, Technology, Engineering, Mathematics a green card? Do you know what that will do in terms if enabling age discrimination, labor abuses, wages, careers? It will decimate them!

If that wasn't enough, they created yet another guest worker Visas called the H-2C? This is in addition to the many they already have which they increased in some cases to de facto unlimited (H-1B).

Is anyone thinking about what this will do to US workers, the US work force?

Is anyone even aware these days that the AFL-CIO condemned the bill for this and other reasons?

Are you aware of how many corporate lobbyists wrote that bill? In fact a section of it, the SKIL bill was written by corporate lobbyists wanting their global labor arbitrage agenda?

I'm just sitting here listening to all of this horrified. If a Dem is for "comprehensive" immigration reform that means they are for that bill and it's not a good thing.

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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 11:45 PM
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1. I'm moving south as soon as my kids are out of high school
I'll turn the tables on 'em...........
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 11:58 PM
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2. Congressional Democrats don't give a DAMN about what the MAJORITY........
of AMERICANS want; so what the hell else is NEW? WE either need to change their feeble minds or replace THEM. HRC is a BIG SUPPORTER of illegal alien amnesty more commonly masqueraded as Comprehensive Illegal Alien Amnesty Reform.
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hansberrym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 12:24 AM
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3. Yeah, it means FU middle class , and a really big FU working class america.


I see where Bush and the rest of the North American Union/One World Order crowd are coming from.


But what do you think motivates the dems who support this shit?

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nightrider767 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 12:41 AM
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4. It won't last forever...
I'm sue that by the time we are all living in mud-hut villages, things will balance themselves out, and we won't have this huge immigration issue.

Free Trade and open borders is a lie. It was supposed to increase the standard of living in places like Mexico, there by increasing demand for US products like cars. Hasn't work and won't.

This policy, while run by the greedy, will only lower people's living standards till we're all fighting over the mud to put on our roofs.



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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 12:46 AM
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5. Well, reform is not the answer...
It needs to start IN Mexico, just like Joe Biden said;

Illegal immigrants should receive a tamper-proof identification card, learn English, undergo criminal background checks and pay owed taxes over time to walk the path to citizenship, Biden said. And companies should face stiffer penalties for hiring illegal immigrants, he said.

Additionally, the U.S. should put pressure on the Mexican government to stem the tide of illegal immigrants, Biden said. As long as there is a sizable disparity in income and other quality of life issues between Mexico and the U.S., Mexicans will find America attractive, he said.




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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 12:58 AM
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6. Biden VOTED for it!
NO one, absolutely no one, who gave a rats ass about US workers would have voted for that corporate written, open border, cheap labor agenda bill, no one.

Yet, here is the list of those who did. There is a REASON only 23% of the American people approved of that bill.

YEAs ---34
Akaka (D-HI)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)
Salazar (D-CO)
Schumer (D-NY)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00204#position
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 01:01 AM
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7. Yes, and what I posted is where he is with it..
NOW, get it??
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 03:44 AM
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11. Perhaps your comprehension of english is poor...
but I didn't say THEY WERE a republican, I said they SOUNDED like one. Big difference.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 03:42 AM
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10. Yes, I've thought about it a lot
We need to get AMERICANS working before we start bringing in workers from other countries. I was channel surfing several weeks ago when I saw Hillary on C-SPAN, telling a gathering of suits what a wonderful thing outsourcing is. I nearly vomited.

My main frustration with the Democratic party is contained within this bill and any others like it. AMERICANS NEED JOBS, period.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 06:29 AM
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12. I think I've got a pretty good idea what it means yeah...
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:06 AM
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13. Couldn't Agree With You More.
K&R
:kick:
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