Josh Marshall has proof Bush knew about NIE before last week...

[kentuck]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/

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We appear to know now that the Iranians shuttered their nuclear weapons program in 2003. The president apparently had strong indications this was the case back as far as last summer and the intelligence became progressively more clear in the fall. And yet here he was through most of the fall escalating his rhetoric against Iran and rattling the sabers for a potential military confrontation.

Yet, as several readers have noted, when you look back at his speeches, there's evidence that the president was shifting his terms because he knew that the intelligence on which his push for war was based was likely too collapse.

If you go back to his October 17th press conference, the one where he spoke of 'World War III' he changes his wording. It's no longer the need to prevent the Iranians from getting the bomb. Now it's the necessity of "preventing them from hav the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon."

That's the tell.

That change is no accident. He wants claims that will survive the eventual revelation of this new intelligence -- while also continuing to hype the imminence of the Iranian nuclear threat that his spy chiefs are telling him likely does not exist.

[AndyA]

1. Meanwhile, it's an accepted fact that Bush's "sabre rattling" with Iran

has resulted in oil prices going through the roof due to the tension his actions caused. This has resulted in everyone paying higher prices at the pump.

In the big scheme of things, perhaps a small thing, but it just shows he DOES NOT have what's best for the American people at heart.

BUSH NEEDS TO BE IMPEACHED, HE IS NOT PROTECTING US, HE IS HARMING US.

[aquart]

2. I'm pretty sure he knows he isn't allowed to actually attack Iran.

On account of the military won't let him. So it was all a hustle to jack up prices which has crushed our economy.

I'm so funny, I also think that's an impeachable offense.

[Sadie5]

4. war prez?

This is a line he used quite frequently until recently. At almost every newsie confrence he used the term, "I'm a war president". It's nice to see he has dropped his bragging of the maiming and killing of the Iraqi's. Today he looks as if he is ready to be comitted to a mental institution.

[bullimiami]

3. like it went from having wmd, to being able to produce wmd, to having wmd programs,

to having the ability to develop wmd programs.

[kentuck]

5. Yep

exactly