Hillary hides behind her husband's suit coat, yet again.

[Joe the Revelator]

This is one strong woman! :rolleyes:

KEENE, N.H. (AP) - Bill Clinton said Tuesday that if reporters covered the candidates' public records better, his wife's presidential bid would be far ahead of her rivals.

During a campaign stop on behalf of his wife, New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, the former president said he can't understand why so much of the media coverage of the campaign ignores her experience—and, without naming him, the relative lack of experience of her closest Democratic rival, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.

"One percent of the press coverage was devoted to their record in public life. No wonder people think experience is irrelevant. A lot of the people covering the race think it is (irrelevant)," Clinton said to students at Keene State College.

Clinton referenced a study from the Project for Excellence in Journalism that indicated much of the coverage of the race is dominated by daily horse race reporting rather than about policy issues.

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http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8TAQ9503&show_article=1

[rinsd]

1. Yup there is absolutely no misogny or sexism related to Hillary hatred whatsoever

:eyes:

[Joe the Revelator]

2. Red Herring by Team Hillary

When hiding behind your husband fails, resort to calls of misogny.

[rinsd]

7. "When hiding behind your husband fails, resort to calls of misogny."

The irony is killing me!

[pnwmom]

58. Me, too, rinsd. Where are the comments about the male candidates

hiding behind their wives' skirts?

A male candidate's wife could have made the same comment Clinton did, criticizing the news media for covering the horserace rather than issues or experience -- and no one EVER would have claimed that the candidate was hiding behind his wife's skirts.

[mtnsnake]

3. Wow, I thought you were above sexist shit like that. nt

[Deep13]

4. If I were running and had an arrow that big...

...I sure as hell would shoot it.

[Tejanocrat]

5. Well, the boys were picking on her. What do you expect?

[cali]

11. more sexist bullshti

that has just what to do with the article? Oh that's right; it has jackshit to do with what the article is about.

[Joe the Revelator]

14. It just shows how weak Hillary actually is.

If you call yourself strong,male or female, you have to prove it by your actions. Hillary has shown time and time again that at best, she's a whiner.

[cali]

17. what this thread demonstrates is you are a hard core sexist. that's it.

and it's gross to see. sexism is no more excusable than any other form of bigotry.

[Joe the Revelator]

34. Keep crying about it Cali. Your candidate needs to do a better job looking "strong"

Like she says she is.

[noamnety]

47. I've said multiple times I'm not voting for Sen Clinton

even if she's the nominee. However, I have to agree with Cali on this. The article is badly sexist.

All of the leading candidates have strong and vocal spouses. When Elizabeth Edwards speaks out, or when Teresa spoke out in the last election, guess who got the criticism? The women, for not knowing when to "be quiet." :eyes:

When a woman runs for office and her spouse speaks out, guess who gets the criticism? The woman.

The women are at fault for speaking when they are the spouse, the women are at fault when their spouses speak. It's hard to believe that's really so invisible to the people taking part in perpetuating these talking points.

[pnwmom]

59. Any other candidate's spouse could have made the same comment -- that

the news media covers the horserace and not the issues -- and the reaction would have been: ho hum. No one would be saying that the candidate was hiding behind his wife's skirts.

[katty]

6. 'billary' is losing the PR war at record pace--bill be quiet-go home

and hang out with your girlfriends....chill out.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. "Billary"

Is somebody channeling the ghost of Rush Limbaugh?

I know he's not dead but it sounded good...

[Prophet 451]

42. Wishful thinking maybe? n/t

[cali]

8. love the sexist element of the Clinton hate fest

and sorry, I am not a Clinton supporter, but your thread title is blatantly and grotesquely sexist. As a woman, I deplore it.

[mtnsnake]

10. There are more elements of Clinton hatefests here than on rightwing hate radio

This place is infested!

[cali]

13. it disgusts me to see this kind of blatant sexism. It's no more

excusable than racism- except here and oh so progressive DU. Fuck that.

[Joe the Revelator]

16. There is nothing sexist about my post cali....

you can cry, gnash your teeth and try to paint me as the monster, but the fact remains, Hillary is doing this to herself. She is inviting people to feel this way.

[rinsd]

27. "There is nothing sexist about my post"

"Hillary hides behind her husband's suit coat"

Yup that isn't sexist at all. :eyes:

[Joe the Revelator]

32. If the shoe fits...

its exactly what she's doing.

[cali]

29. most racists don't recognize that they are racists. most

anti-semites don't realize that they are anti-semites. And most sexists don't think they are sexist. Your OP title is classically sexist for obvious reasons.

[Joe the Revelator]

36. And most reactionary, overly PC, name callers don't realize that's what they are either.

nt

[rinsd]

39. Now its PC run amok!

You dig that hole deeper and deeper.

[sniffa]

54. how many times did she post in this thread?

:eyes:

[pnwmom]

60. Why don't you say that the male candidates are hiding behind their wives skirts

whenever their wives make statements in support of their candidacies?

[Writer]

57. I think that there are some liberal men who believe that they are incapable of being sexist...

by virtue of their being liberal. The OP has no idea what the subtext of his thread title implies.

[Cameron27]

9. So are Edwards and Obama hiding behind

Michelle and Elizabeth's skirts? Bill's had far less to say than either of them in this primary, and he is Hillary's husband.

[Madam Mossfern]

15. I didn't find it sexist at all.

Finding 'sexism' in every attack does not help Clinton's cause one bit. Honestly, it turns me off. There is not doubt that she is using Bill, and she would be stupid if she didn't. That being said, she needs to be prepared for the barbs that ensue for depending on him to boost her numbers. It has nothing to do with her gender...not at all.

[Cameron27]

19. I didn't call it sexist,

I'm pointing out that Michelle and Elizabeth have spoken much more frequently, and in EE's case, much more harshly that Bill has. So are Obama and Edwards hiding behind their skirts?

[sufrommich]

20. Then where are the cries of outrage when

the wives of Obama and Edwards campaign for their husbands?

[Madam Mossfern]

28. I dunno

My issue is with calling it sexist. All one had to do is to refute the OP by stating that the spouses of the other candidates helped them too. Do you think that if an OP stated that some candidate was strong arming another that it would be condemned as a sexist (anti-male) post?

[mtnsnake]

30. You wouldn't. You only run around falsely accusing Hillary supporters of it all the time

so of course you wouldn't find an anti-Hillary post sexist.

[Prophet 451]

43. Being anti-Hillary is not sexist

This post might be but one does not have to be sexist to find problems with HRC.

[rinsd]

44. Exactly! Being against Hillary is not sexist.

The framing like this OP however is.

[pnwmom]

61. To say that she is "hiding" behind her husband's suit, merely because

her husband said something supportive IS sexist and unfair, since no male candidate is ever criticized for hiding behind his wife's skirt in the same situation.

[Joe the Revelator]

12. The calls of SEXISM!!!! are proving my point for me...

When is Hillary and her supporters going to realize that this is a losing meme? When is she going to learn that in order to be a "strong woman" she has to be out in front of the issue instead of sending her husband out to do her work?

[Deep13]

18. She is out in front of Bill.

I don't see Bill at those debates. The fact that Bill is an asset available to her does not mean she is hiding behind his coat. That is something a mousy housewife would do, hence the claims of sexism.

[Madam Mossfern]

23. Mousy housewife?

Now that's a sexist statement.

[Deep13]

31. .

:eyes:

I don't have time to explain the obvious.

[Joe the Revelator]

33. But Bill! They're Picking on me!!!

Thats what she's doing. Sending her husband out to "protect" her from the big bad media.

[Cameron27]

21. She's a stronger woman than

Obama and Edwards are strong men, if we're judging anything by their spouses speaking out.

[cali]

22. you sound just like any other bigot defending their bigotry.

Obama's spouse and Edward's spouse are campaigning for them. Clinton's spouse is too. There's nothing weak about her using her assets- and a popular ex-president is an asset.

[rinsd]

24. Actually your dumbass framing is what prompted the sexism calls.

And you continue proving how sexist you are with each successive post.

[pnwmom]

62. When are you going to get it that candidate's FEMALE spouses have ALWAYS

campaigned for their spouses, and the candidates have NEVER been criticized for hiding behind their wife's skirts?

You're putting a negative, misogynist spin on something all spouses have always done.

[Orangepeel]

25. Why is this different than anyone else campaigning for her?

Jesus H. Christ. I'm supporting Edwards and Clinton is probably my fourth choice. But the silliness of the criticism astounds me. "Bill Clinton said to vote for his wife! How dare he!" You know, Elizabeth Edwards, Elizabeth Kucinich, and Michelle Obama want you to vote for their spouses, too (I expect that Biden's, Dodd's and Richardson's wives also support their husbands, but I don't know their names).

There is plenty of actual substantive things to disagree with Clinton about. It is even reasonable to criticize her for claiming that being Bill Clinton's unofficial top adviser counts as experience. But saying that she's hiding behind her husband because he campaigns for her is ... silly.

[Joe the Revelator]

35. Bill Clinton did NOT say "Vote for my WIfe". He said quit picking on my wife.

Instead of having Hillary fight her own battles, she sends Bill in to fight her battles for her. This flys right in the face of her claims of being a "strong woman".

[Orangepeel]

48. he's criticizing the media. so does everyone else.

usually, deservedly so.

[Joe the Revelator]

37. So now that all the sexism sillyness is over with...what do you think about Hillary....

...employing this tactic yet again?

[rinsd]

40. The sexism silliness is over? Have you stopped acting sexist? When did that happen?

[Joe the Revelator]

49. When its just Team Misogyny beating the drum...

I know its nothing more then a red herring.

[rinsd]

50. Its not just Clinton supporters complaining.

I guess your dishonesty goes hand in hand with your sexism.

[Joe the Revelator]

51. Any other immature petty name calling you would like to contribute?

Anyone who isn't a Clinton supporter and is complaining is an overly sensitive wack job. There is nothing sexist about the OP.

[rinsd]

52. I'm making character assertions, not calling names.

"Anyone who isn't a Clinton supporter and is complaining is an overly sensitive wack job"

Let's add a new one to your list oif character traits, hypocrisy!

[Joe the Revelator]

53. Hypocrisy?

Apparently you don't even know the meaning of the word.

[rinsd]

56. Last I checked "overly sensitive whackjob" is name calling.

Something you said was immature only to then call people names in the very same post.

Hence the hypocrisy.

[Renew Deal]

38. That's not her fault.

Bill needs to shut up about her campaign. He can't help himself.

[babylonsister]

45. Don't you think he's been asked to stump for her? It does sounds

like she needs to rein him in.

[karynnj]

41. Could you change the sexist title?

I did not see anyone complain that JRE was hiding behind EE when she made similar comments that the media was unfair to him.

[hayu_lol]

46. I'm glad to see that there are some real thinkers on this thread...

It is perfectly ok for Mrs Obama, Mrs Edwards, Mrs Kucinich, Mrs Romney and the rest to speak out boldly for their hubbys. It is not fair or ok for Mr Clinton to speak out for Hillary.

What sort of time warp are some of you locked into?

[karynnj]

55. I did not say it was unfair for Clinton to do so

I didn't like the sexist language - all the spouses will defend their significant other.

I also think it is not good - portraying HRC as the victim in any sense is the opposite of their strategy that only she is tough enough to fight back. Criticizing the press is always iffy. If you have power, it seems Nixonian or Bushian - especially if there is the sense that you will punish by dening access. Without power, it does not seem the best way to court their good will. It also kind of diminishes the ex-President and makes him sound whiny.

[Tactical Progressive]

63. Bill Clinton is exactly right

I wonder why the truth would be so upsetting to the OP.