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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:01 PM
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So Senators Biden, Clinton, Dodd, and Obama did not cast votes on the Peru Trade Agreement today
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:02 PM
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1. They were in Iowa at an NPR debate.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:03 PM
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2. Yep. How convenient. n/t
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 06:03 PM by antigop
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:15 PM
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14. I didn't mean to include McCain in that.
Some if not all of them already voiced their opinion on it. They didn't vote, but they can't hide what they said about the trade deal.

Obama was for it. I think Hillary was for it too. Someone else said Biden was against it. I don't know Dodd's position. I don't care what McCain thinks about it.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:04 PM
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3. Was this the one that Obama and Clinton indicated they would support?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:10 PM
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11. I think they were in support of it. Kennedy and Kerry voted for it. Boxer voted against. nt
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:12 PM
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13. Thanks gately.
I like that pic.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:25 PM
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15. I call it his "Jack Benny Pose" nt
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:04 PM
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4. How bout they care about Global Warming, and didnt want to fly back and forth
further hurting the environment. Does that do it for you?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:06 PM
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5. And that would've changed the results of a 77-vote passing of it?
One thing about the Senate, there's very few surprise votes. If it were close, I'd be pissed.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:06 PM
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6. Sorry if you don't understand. n/t
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:07 PM
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7. Did our fearless leader not realize there was a debate today?
Biden was going to vote against it too.

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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:08 PM
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8. Can those who are recommending this explain why?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:09 PM
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9. This passed by a very comfortable margin -- I always look to Kennedy, Kerry and
Boxer to be my bellwether.

Kennery voted yea
Kerry voted yea
Boxter voted nay :shrug:

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:11 PM
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12. Biden was going to vote against it.
I think because his main concern is fair trade.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:26 PM
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16. Yeah, I recall he was against it. nt
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:33 PM
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22. His comment was more ambiguous
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 10:33 PM by karynnj
Saying that he did not trust Bush to enforce the environmental and workers provisions in the agreement. He said for this reason he would oppose trade agreements even if the provisions are good. (I would infer that he is implying that this is not bad on paper.) Especially as Kennedy voted for it.
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:09 PM
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10. The Cost Of This Damn 2 Year Prez....


......Campaign....


....Shows you were their priority's are.......These Senators are more concerned about becoming PREZ than being leaders...

.....Hilary doesn't surprise me....I'm surprised that Biden missed...
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:44 PM
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17. Oh pullleeeeeeaaaase!
When was the last election where candidates who were in Congress did NOT miss votes?

Possible solutions: 1) skip the elections, 2) ban campaigning, 3) ban congressfolk from running for president. Or, better yet, just forget about the whining and face reality.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:46 PM
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18. I really don't have a problem with that.
Regardless of how you feel on this (and reasonable people can disagee), their votes would have made no difference.

The NPR debate was more important than them voting on this.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:48 PM
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19. Teddy voted Yea -- Oh rats
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:59 PM
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20. So? It was 77-18-5
The leadership will let them know when they are needed on a close vote. So unless Dick Durbin and Harry Reid are ripping them, I won't. Too much hay is made of candidates missing votes. It plays on the public's ignorance of the legislative process.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:10 PM
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21. Yes, and what is your point?
Yes we know you're so very sorry that we don't understand. I'd like to hear it so please enlighten us. The true test of understanding anything is the ability to explain it to anyone.

I'll be really impressed if you can do it without insulting anyone's intelligence.

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