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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:25 PM
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Poll question: Is it better to miss a vote that would pass and be right on the issue or to show up and be wrong?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:27 PM
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1. How can you "miss and be right?" You show up and you're wrong, or you miss.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:27 PM
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2. Hillary has been duped by Bush twice. That's all
we need to know about her.

Clinton/Lieberman, anyone?
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:32 PM
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8. Katz, why do you bring up Lieberman?
Go and google "Obama's senate mentor"

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:28 PM
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3. How about "show up and be right on the issue"...
which is where real integrity is found.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:30 PM
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6. Joe Biden
You're right
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:29 PM
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4. It's better to ACT upon your convictions and STAND for what you say you believe in.
Let the chips fall where they may.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:30 PM
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5. yes
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:31 PM
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7. OK, so Hillary supports war with Iran
Or she was fooled again. Call it whatever you want.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:33 PM
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9. just answering your question, but I must say, if you applied a tenth the scrutiny to Obama
that you do to Hillary, I think it would be an enlightening endeavor.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:39 PM
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12. My point is that does Hillary really want to run on this issue?
I'm happy to scrutinize Obama and I often do. I declared him too weak to be the nominee on 11/15. I declared him DOA for supporting drivers licenses for illegals on 10/30. (I remember the dates because that was after the debates.) You should even see what I said about Edwards the day his campaign was announced. I am an equal opportunity offender. Part of it is because I haven't chosen a candidate yet. I still cannot commit because I don't love any of them. But I can't resist getting involved when someone is unfairly attacked IMHO.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:35 PM
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10. No worries..
hillary has this covered..she's talkin' a mile minute defending her vote, so you see she wasn't really wrong because Iran has changed their tune!

Oh, the NIE reported Iran changed their tune in 2003! You don't say!

Never let them catch you changing your mind..where do they get this from? The bushit school of Iranian policy?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:35 PM
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11. Missing key votes to avoid taking a stance is a copout of the biggest variety. nt
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:45 PM
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14. I agree...
...only two voted against the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution; how much guts did that take?

And how many voted against the initial Iraq war resolution?

I rest my case...
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:45 PM
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13. how about walking through a pile of shit that`s in plain site?
not one democrat should have showed up to vote on that pile of shit but all but one stepped in it.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 07:38 AM
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15. Neither.
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 07:40 AM by LWolf
It's better to show up, and to be right on the issue.

Hillary is wrong on the issue.

We don't know if Obama is right or wrong; his words don't count. His actions do. A vote would have provided evidence for deciding if he is right or wrong. He was wrong not to cast it.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 07:44 AM
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16. The results are in: DUers agree that it's better not to do your job.
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 07:44 AM by Perry Logan
So long as you're not Hillary.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 09:46 AM
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18. I think they agree that a job badly done is not worth doing.
:shrug:
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 07:54 AM
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17. Show up and be right
Everything else is moonshine.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:02 PM
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19. I prefer a senator who actually has the cojones to vote
instead of complaining how he would have, could have, voted if meany Reid would have given him ample notice (unlike the other senators who must have shown up on a fluke). Please......
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:06 PM
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20. except when the idiot leader of the senate schedules an important vote when he knows the
Dem candidates are in the middle of a debate.

I blame Reid for what happened yesterday - if that is what you are referring to.
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