If you were a senator, and couldn't make an important vote, would you release a statement...

[Clintonista2]

[Clintonista2]

1. Fun fact: How long did Obama wait to release a statement after Kyl-Lieberman?

7 Hours.

[PresidentObama]

3. Fun fact: Hillary voted for IWR and Kyl-Lieberman. She never learns, huh?

[Clintonista2]

5. Fun fact: Edwards co-sponsored the IWR!

[PresidentObama]

10. Fun fact: He learned his lesson, and doesn't claim he'll end the war--yet continue combat missions.

And he sure as hell didn't support Kyl-Lieberman.

Nor did Senator Obama.

[Occam Bandage]

13. Fun Fact: Just like Senator Obama, Senator Edwards

Edwards has never actually voted against war, nor has he ever voted opposite Hillary Clinton on matters of war. I'm not impressed by armchair quarterbacking.

Edit: Second Fun Fact: He opposed K-L because "As president, Edwards will ensure that such steps are not just more rhetoric, but actually lead to results." Just like Obama, his opposition is not because he disagrees with designating the IRG a terrorist organization.

[uppityperson]

16. How did he vote on Kyle-Lieberman? Did he learn?

[Clintonista2]

17. Edwards was not a member of the senate during the Kyl-Lieberman vote

[uppityperson]

18. Thanks. I thought he was a senator for a while. What am I missing?

Beyond memory I mean. Not wanting to get into snarking here, looking for info. Thanks.

[Clintonista2]

20. Edwards was a senator from 1998-2004

During his short time in the senate, he was very pro-business, opposed universal health care, and was one of the most vocal dems in support of the invasion of Iraq.

[uppityperson]

22. He quit to be VP, that's right.

Sorry, brain fart. Thanks.

[Bitwit1234]

19. Gee does Obama have an excuse for sitting the votes out.

[AtomicKitten]

2. Hillary voted YES on Kyl-Lieberman.

That's the issue here. Nonvotes don't start wars. Yes votes do.

[Clintonista2]

4. The president can't vote "present"

And he can't ignore controversial legislation.

[AtomicKitten]

6. President Obama will do a great job.

[undercoverduer]

7. You are right but when Hillary chose to vote she voted yes. . .

. . .and presidents don't vote on legislation. VP's do and they can vote present.

[Clintonista2]

9. I never said Presidents vote on legislation

BHO doesn't seem to vote on legislation either. I geuss that makes him presidential, in a way. :shrug:

[undercoverduer]

11. I see we have another Clinton supporter pushing the BHO line now. . .

. . .we knew that wouldn't take long for you to follow the Clinton strategies of using right wing tactics. LOL

[Clintonista2]

12. I would call him BO if it made you feel better

[AndyA]

8. Hillary and Barack are also guilty of waiting until the last moment to vote,

when their votes would make no difference anyway. I've seen that happen.

Hillary should not be proud of her voting record when it comes to giving Bush more and more power. After the travesty that is Iraq, you'd think she'd know better. I wonder what the real motivation for her votes is?

Who does she owe? :shrug:

[Tom Rinaldo]

14. Can you explain this?

The Politico's Ben Smith reported November 5, 2007, that a key passage on Edwards' website regarding Iran has been changed.<1>

"As of September 7, the passage read:<2>

"'Iran’s Revolutionary Guard will soon be deemed a terrorist organization by the U.S. As president, Edwards will ensure that such steps are not just more rhetoric, but actually lead to results.'

"The passage now reads:<3>

"'Congress recently passed a bill to declare Iran's Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization. We saw in Iraq where such steps by Congress can lead President Bush. Edwards has announced his opposition to this bill.'

"The rest of the text of the 2,000-word foreign policy page is unchanged. And while this is obviously an update to keep pace with the news, the first version lacks any condemnation of the planned terrorist designation," Smith wrote.<1>
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=John_Edwards

I have heard Edwards call for the use of carrots and sticks as a negotiating strategy toward Iran. Clinton called the designation of Iran's Revolutionary Guard as a "stick" for a diplomatic strategy. What sticks does Edwards support?

[AndyA]

21. I don't see the first paragraph as support.

"'Iran’s Revolutionary Guard will soon be deemed a terrorist organization by the U.S. As president, Edwards will ensure that such steps are not just more rhetoric, but actually lead to results.'

The way I read it, it says that this is just another bullshit step on the part of Bushco, which amounts to more sabre rattling, instead of taking real actions that will produce results, which is what Edwards would do as President.

I don't read into it that he first supported it, then changed his mind, so I don't see the controversy.

[mac2]

15. She owes Yale?

Hillary went to globalist, Skull & Bones Yale. I will have a hard time ever voting for a "Yalie" ever again after Bush, Kerry, President Clinton, etc.

They seem to think of themselves as the "elite". Forget they are where they are on the democratic social agenda by Americans.