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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 07:55 AM
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Bloomberg's Al Hunt: Tension in Hillaryland Grows as Plan Goes Awry
Tension in Hillaryland Grows as Plan Goes Awry: Albert R. Hunt

By Albert R. Hunt

Dec. 10 (Bloomberg) -- To appreciate Hillary Clinton's fundamental political problem, consider the 11 Democrats from Philadelphia who gathered last week to discuss the U.S. presidential race, almost all of whom would vote for her in a general election.

The focus group was moderated by an expert on such forums, Democratic pollster Peter Hart. The participants were informed and enthusiastic about their party's prospects, had no interest in the Republicans or third-party candidates, and were about equally balanced between front-runners Clinton and Senator Barack Obama of Illinois.

When Hart pushed the group during a two-hour conversation about the strengths and weaknesses of the two candidates, a different picture emerged.

Obama, they worried, can't win the nomination; voters aren't ready for an African-American president (a point expressed most directly by the two black women participants), and he may not be sufficiently experienced.

A couple of victories in Iowa and New Hampshire would cure most of those problems.

The concerns about Clinton, 60, a New York senator, are that she is devious, calculating and, fairly or not, a divisive figure in American politics.

Those are a lot tougher to overcome.

more...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=anRcoLyfN0VM

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 07:57 AM
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1. I just read this! Very interesting... nt
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 08:02 AM
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2. That's Just Factually Incorrect !
"If she can't adjust and rise to this challenge, however, she may well finish third in the Iowa caucuses and lose to Obama in New Hampshire. In the past 30 years, no candidate has lost both these tests and won the nomination."
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 08:03 AM
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3. Didn't Bill Clinton lose both?
Yeah, that's some poor researching by the reporter.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 08:09 AM
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5. Most Of His Analysis Was Spot On
Her campaign requires a shake up... Hell, Ronald Reagan, I believe, fired his campaign manager on the plane ride from Iowa to New Hampsire in 1980 , turned his campaign around after losing the Iowa caucus to Bush Pere and went on to win the presidency...

Maybe the Clinton campaign can say Mark Penn is sick or needs to spend time with his family or something...
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 09:49 AM
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10. Yup shake up. Too bad they can't replace
Hillary with Al Gore. ;)
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 10:27 AM
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12. She needs an "I am paying for this microphone, Mr. Green"
moment.

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 08:12 AM
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6. Clinton did not campaign in Iowa, as Senator Harking was the favorite son there in '92.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 09:46 AM
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9. Sorry about the typo, Senator Harkin!
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 08:05 AM
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4. Billionaire 'Bama Backer Bloomberg Bashes by Blog
Big bucking beal.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 08:16 AM
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7. Quote...
...."Top Clinton campaign officials were privately furious at the former president, saying he had revived the complaint that the Clintons lack credibility, unfairly tarnishing his wife in the process."

Hey, if you are going to ride someone's coattails, you have to take the bad with the good. Cry me a river.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 09:43 AM
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8. hillary has to look really hard for the cucarachas. they are all coming from poppy bush's cupboard.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 10:22 AM
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11. Obama - "inspirational, motivating"
These can be very strong forces in a country that as Frank Rich (I think...) said recently suffers from clinical depression.

I have strong misgivings about the conclusions one can get from analyzing such a small group. Still, the conclusions are interesting, and probably in synch with what many other people think/feel.
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