Joe Biden On Dick Cheney’s State Of Denial

[PatSeg]

Sen. Joe Biden today issued the following statement in response to news reports that Vice President Cheney “predicted Iraq will be a self-governing democracy by the time he leaves office,” and called “the current U.S. surge strategy ‘a remarkable success story’ that will be studied for years to come”:

“It’s no wonder the Vice President would say that. Between the hidden meetings with Halliburton on energy, the warrantless wiretapping of Americans, and the vague definitions of torture he uses, Vice President Cheney wouldn’t know a working democracy if he fell over it.

“The Vice President remains in a state of total denial. The stated purpose of the surge was to buy time for political progress in Iraq."

More: http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/48738612_joe-biden-dick-cheney%E2%80%99s-state-denial

[1corona4u]

1. GO JOE!!

[PatSeg]

2. I can hear Cheney saying "Biden, go f#%k yourself"

:bounce:

[WheelWalker]

41. It's a catch 22 for them... If they address Biden's pounding fusillade,

they only enable him on the way to the nomination. They must be gagging on their own bile.

I think they'd desperately want HC or BO as the dem's candidate, whom they probably (mistakenly, I would think) believe one of their party's clowns can beat.

[PatSeg]

42. Good point

"Pay that guy no mind". They don't want people paying attention to Biden. If they ignore him, maybe he'll go away.

[bdamomma]

62. of course they want HC or BO, that is all part of their plan

this filthy administration and the media. I would love to see someone sneak in and surprise the sh$t out of them, let the American people be unpredictable, cause they think they know us so well, sure they do.:sarcasm:. Let's give it back to them

[1corona4u]

7. LOL,, I just have to post this...found it last night....

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAhahahahahahaha.........

[PatSeg]

14. Oh yuck

I'm eating breakfast here...........:puke:

[1corona4u]

19. LOL...disgusting, LOL...

[jillan]

23. ugh - that is sick! barf!

[WheelWalker]

37. Gag me with a chainsaw, and turn it on.

[youthere]

53. My EYES!

Mommy! It Burrrrrrrrrrnnnnnss!

[bdamomma]

63. oh how gross!!

strange bedfellows??????

[polichick]

3. Wish Biden would join Kucinich in calling for impeachment...

Then lots of others would say, "Joe's right."

[rucky]

4. At the rate that Bushco is ignoring the intel and going with the war rhetoric...

Biden and Kooch should be on the same page in no time.

[polichick]

5. I sure hope so! :)

[rucky]

13. Except for the whole "one step closer to war" part.

of course.
:)

I see Biden's strategy as using impeachment as leverage to hopefully head-off an attack against Iran - FWIW. At least Bush knows there will be some resistance from Congress this time.

[PatSeg]

16. That's my take on it

When a senator of his stature and longevity says "impeachment" it carries a lot of weight. He is trying to instill the fear of god into these idiots.

[mikelgb]

35. thanks for the clarification I was about to set you straight

;)

[polichick]

44. Oh yeah, of course!

Leverage is great ~ but I really do want him to call for impeachment based on what's already happened.

[Frustratedlady]

9. Would war crimes be faster?

I have a question for those who are savvy on these procedures.

Can Frit and Frat still be charged and convicted AFTER they leave office? Not only on war crimes, as I'm sure that is a lifetime possibility, but on crimes while in office? We can't forgive and forget...and shouldn't, if they can be proven, if for no other reason than as a lesson for our children. What they will be seeing, hearing and reading about in their history books, will be how this cabal was so corrupt, but were able to continue without conviction. Sets quite a precedent, doesn't it? "Hey! I can do that! It must be legal, as the prez got by with it!" Super!

[PatSeg]

10. Yes, they can

and Biden alluded to that in an interview awhile back. Meanwhile, I'm sure Bush is trying to figure out how to issue a preemptive Pardon and how to issue one to himself! He is so used to rewriting the constitution, he probably deludes himself that its possible. :rofl:

[rucky]

15. That's much more likely than impeachment...

and carries a better chance of success, with much stiffer penalties.

But that shouldn't stop Biden from using any leverage he has - including impeachment - to prevent further atrocities.

[gateley]

30. I want them CHARGED with the crimes and sent to jail. If we DO impeach, I don't

want it to stop there -- to let them trot off to their respective hideaways in Paraguay and Dubai and live like kings happily ever after. I want them to PAY for what they've done. They have DESTROYED the United States, our relationship with the world, are responsible for killing THOUSANDS of people -- I want them to suffer.

[Frustratedlady]

32. Hold that thought until we can get them rounded up.

I'm hoping that during the holidays, we can give our loved ones, friends and neighbors a couple subliminal messages...vote Biden...charge Bush/Cheney for war crimes....vote Biden....charge! It would be the best gift we could give them...ever! Especially, for my grandchildren and great-grands. I worry for their future.:evilgrin:

[bdamomma]

64. for all the suffering they afflicted on innocent people I would also

like to see them suffer too. They are not good people at all, just think about all the things they have done, forgive and forget??? NOT for me.

[polichick]

45. I can't imagine them sticking around for charges after they leave office...

Halliburton sure didn't stick around!

[PatSeg]

48. Cheney might have the good sense to leave the country, but

George? I think he believes he'll just go back to Crawford and let bygones be bygones. He is pretty clueless.

[DCKit]

54. Would YOU go back to the shithole that is Crawford....

When you owned 8,500 acres of prime land in Paraguay atop one of the worlds largest fresh water aquifers? Would you stay in the US when Paraguay has no extradition treaty with the US?

Thank George for extraordinary rendition. Stupid Chimp, your Blackwater thugs are gonna give up your ass so fast.

[PatSeg]

56. Oddly enough, he seems to think Crawford is Heaven on Earth?

Maybe he has thoughts of Paraguay. :shrug:

[bdamomma]

65. he(Bush) will probably "sprint" out of the country.

[jillan]

24. I keep getting the impression that Biden is working on something bigger

Like throwing their asses in jail!

He is a constitutional law professor and has been meeting with constitutional lawyers.
Plus he has mentioned 'criminal charges' several times in the past.

[PatSeg]

25. I think you're right

I think he has it all planned out and his comments aren't "off the cuff".

[rucky]

26. Yep. And if you're going to play that hand, you have to play it close to your chest.

Especially while a madman is still commander-in-chief.

[PatSeg]

27. And Bush is running around the WH

demanding, "What does this guy have? Somebuddy find out what he's got." But there is no one left in the WH who knows how to DO ANYTHING. Bet he doesn't sleep so well anymore.

[jillan]

28. I think he sleeps just fine.

I don't think he has a soul.

[PatSeg]

29. By his body language, I think he has enough humanity

to actually be scared. Bet he has to have a drink or two before bed now.

[WheelWalker]

38. "Even Richard Nixon has got soul..." It's what one does with it that counts.

[PatSeg]

49. It isn't a matter of having a soul

It is a matter of listening to it. Bush has shut his soul out, but listens to "god".

[polichick]

46. Sure hope so - but they'd better grab them before they split the country! nt

[PatSeg]

47. Yeah, this is about much than politics

We are in a major crisis and somebody's got to wake up and realize how dangerous this administration is. It is not just the United States, its most of the world.

[bdamomma]

67. yes, this affects the world and who would have the balls to confront these

wackjobs???? Russia and China are just watching.

[bdamomma]

66. yes, Biden has met with constitutional lawyers he is not playing.

He is doing something behind the scenes.

[faithfulcitizen]

6. Wow, just wow.

:wow: "...wouldn't know a working democracy if he fell over it." I don't hear many other candidates being THIS honest.

[PatSeg]

8. He is a tad blunt!

That's one of his appeals. He says he's running like he has nothing to lose and that appears to be true.

Meanwhile, instead of attacking the other Dem candidates, he's attacking our real problem in the White House. I think he knows what people really want to hear.

[faithfulcitizen]

11. I couldn't agree more. I should have added- and THIS is exactly what we need now. :)

he really is taking the fight to them everyday, rather than beating up fellow dems.

[PatSeg]

12. And it appears to be working

which shows that experience does matter. He knows politics better than most and is a savvy campaigner. Also he's resourceful. He doesn't have the big bucks, so he gets exposure by actually DOING something! Novel idea.

[bdamomma]

68. yes, Biden is attacking the issues.

I just hope more people listen to him.

[gateley]

31. Ha! I LOVED that! Biden sums it up in a concise little zinger -- as usual. nt

[WheelWalker]

58. Kick'n the good stuff!

[WheelWalker]

39. This is no time in American history to be subtle.

[Steely_Dan]

17. Go Joe

It's about time that someone stood up to these idiots. Wouldn't you know it would be Joe (and DK).

-P

[PatSeg]

18. He is speaking for a LOT of people

and he's speaking very directly and bluntly, something we really need. People tune out to the same old political jargon.

[Frustratedlady]

21. Bingo! You said...

"People tune out to the same old political jargon." When you're able to quote their speeches, word for word, it's time to either change the speech or switch candidates, because the one you've been watching doesn't have much new to say.

Since Joe hasn't been campaigning that long in Iowa, his speeches are fresh. But, I think he is at his best when he throws out the notes and talks off the top of his head. People don't care that much if all the words are correct, but are more concerned about what his thoughts are in regard to this mess in Washington. It's past time to be polite about this cabal in Washington.

Also, the fact he isn't that involved with the Washington in-crowd, is a real plus. Joe seems to be the type who comes to work in the morning, does his work and heads back to his family. I'm sure he's heard a good deal of how they operate, though.

[PatSeg]

22. In 04 I followed politics daily

and became very frustrated when all I heard from both sides were talking points. I wanted to reach into the TV and shake these people, "say something we want to hear!!! Just talk like a real person."

I zoned out a lot as everything was so contrived and scripted.

[butterfly77]

33. That first sentence fits Edwards perfectly...

[jillan]

36. lol !

[murbley40]

20. kick

[WheelWalker]

34. BOOM ! That's a howitzer ! We need to get him on tour with that kind of material.

[gateley]

40. More from the quote -- nails Cheney again:

“Vice President Cheney has been consistently wrong about Iraq, from his claim it had reconstituted nuclear weapons before the war to his assertion more than two years ago that the insurgency was in its last throes.”

[PatSeg]

43. Poor Guy

He never gets it right, but he keeps on plugging away.

[GreenTea]

50. Is the Dick still alive?

[PatSeg]

51. That's a good question

I think he's close friends with the "Reanimater"!

[WheelWalker]

52. He is in a "secure, undisclosed location." nt

[youthere]

55. Bwahahaha! Kick!

[WheelWalker]

57. Kick'n back atch'a!

[Steely_Dan]

59. Kick...

[murbley40]

60. kick

[bdamomma]

61. I love it, give it to cheney!!! yes,

:applause: