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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:30 PM Original message |
Joe Horn is the asshole of the year. (Shoots man in coldblood for burglerly and set free) |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. Pretty stunning, but I doubt he'd hesitate to shoot a white burglar either. nt |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Yup. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I don't know... I can't sympathize with the burglars no matter how hard I try. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. We don't kill people over stuff |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I can |
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Greenwood (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
82. Maybe others will be a little more hestiant about breaking in a house..... |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Oh I don't feel sorry for "them" moreover the attitude involved... |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Police were already on the scene |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Yes I agree, but racially motivated? No. |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. he shot them in the back and they weren't burglarizing his house, i don't have |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. They didn't stop so he shot - yes, he could've hit their legs. nt |
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Dollface (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Hitting legs is harder than it looks in the movies |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. So is hitting a moving target. Were the guys running away anyways? |
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Dollface (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Not to mention homicide. |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
40. He had a fucking shotgun!!!! |
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DaLittle Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. The MF'er Just wanted to shoot somebody and |
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ORDagnabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. hmmm dont rob dont get shot... pretty simple. |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. So you think people are justified in killing people over property? |
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Greenwood (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
80. I totally agree! Don't rob and you don't get shot... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
7. This used to be plain illegal |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Don't you see the irony here??? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Illegal employers are stealing |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Yes, employers are most definitely stealing from citizens... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #27 |
54. Do you have any personal morals?? Is law all that matters? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Do you feel sorry for all burglars then?? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. No burglar should be murdered in cold blood |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. The country was founded by the gun... People used to be shot or |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
53. Current history, not 200 fucking years ago |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 08:09 AM Response to Reply #53 |
94. Yes they did, you just didn't hear about it.. It wasn't as reported as now.. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
12. I don't condone what he did |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. This is going to happen more and more if Congress doesn't deal with the immigration problem... |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Oh really? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. In Texas you can shoot any criminal - not just illegal ones. nt |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. wtf does that have to do with illegal immigrants? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. As I said, this will happen more frequently if Congress doesn't deal... |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. and that still makes 0 sense, are you saying Joe Horn knew those burglars were illegal? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I've already said that imo this guy would've shot ANY burglar... |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. you are the one that connected the 2. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. The OP began with racism - my first response was that the man... |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I wrote the OP |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. "This guy is now the hero for every racist and paranoid gun nut across the country." |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. so people are just going to choose random brown people, hope they're illegals and start blasting? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Whether some Dems want to understand it or not... |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. so again, you're advocating shooting random brown folks and maybe the odds |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. That's ridiculous |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. That may be true in large cities... |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. It's been factually proven |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. I'm afraid you are correct. People are tired of illegal immigration |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Very true... |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. wow. your link is the opposite from what you post. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. I'm sorry that you can't understand the issue... |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. i live in california so it's a pretty safe bet we've got more illegals than you. |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. I was hassled and abused by cops when I was younger, so I am justified in hating |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Of course not... |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. The gov't does nothing about police abusing and killing innocent citizens. So, |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Our gov't does nothing about police abusing and killing innocent citizens??? |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. "this area" - just curious, where is that? -eom |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
62. Here the big thing is the skyrocketing incidence of hit-and-run |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #62 |
73. We've had some of that too... |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
71. That asshole didn't have any fear. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
18. I probably wouldn't do it -- but I condone what he did. |
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brokensymmetry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
49. My compliments. Posting the actual law is helpful |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
57. That law does not cover what he did |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I think he did, the last he heard from the dispatcher was the police were still on the way |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. It's going to a grand jury next week. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Yes, and I think it is a reasonable thing to do. |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
58. Bullshit |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. You're reading of the law is incorrect, IMO. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. "reasonably believes" "legal duty" |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. He also said he understood the law |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. All burglaries? Where did you get that? Certainly not from the text of the law. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. But the law doesn't say that |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #72 |
83. But it does. He can go stop the burglary or stop them from fleeing. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. He can't do it by killing them |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Yes he did, He said he can't let them get away with it. (or something to that effect). |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. Legal Duty does not equal moral obligation |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. I guess we'll have to see |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. I'll bow out of this, but it seems to me that the spirit and letter of this law |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
30. Look for a lot of paperboys and meter men getting blown away in the next few months. |
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Ishoutandscream2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #30 |
81. LOL! You know they'll avoid Horn's neighborhood |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
33. Ed Schultz was saying he had the law on his side.... |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. In his rights to shoot maybe |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #43 |
67. Considering that the DA is an elected position |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. The DA IS prosecuting |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #43 |
74. Who did he have the "right" to shoot? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
76. Question for inthebrain - What do you mean by "and set free"? |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. He was arrested and let go for his stupidity. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Ah, he was released on his on recognizance pending investigation |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. stutter punch |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. Arrested? |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. You don't have to charge someone in order to arrest them |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
85. The undercover officer on the scene said he had to duck for cover |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
89. I know you can shoot someone for breaking |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. See reply #18 |
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