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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 06:47 PM Original message |
Is Hillary in control of her campaign? |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. Agreed. |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Exactly. If she really has lost control of her campaign... |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
3. wow--low pathetic hit jobs. It appears that anything Obama has done |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Are you suggesting that the "Obama as Muslim Manchurian candidate" story is true? |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Fully disclosed? By whom? How do you know it was fully disclosed? |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
4. Actually Felix George Rohatyn is in charge...follow the money |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. uuhhhhh. What? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
5. she learned that from the master - Barack Obama |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. But he's new to the game isn't he. He has no experience like she does. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. and boy does it show! |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. And yet HRC is the one making the missteps at the moment, after she pretty much had it locked up |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. the only people who argue Clinton ever had it locked up is the media and... |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Yeah, those were the only ones... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. as you just demanded below: Back up your charges |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. If Barack is the master of dirty play |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. he's the master of doing what the OP claims Hillary is doing - blaming his staff for missteps |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Point me to the email where a high level Obama staffer accused Clinton of murdering Vince Foster? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. why would I want to do that? The OP never made a reference to that |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I made the OP. Back up your charges. When has Obama been caught attacking another candidate then... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. right here... |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. He was wrong then. It doesn't make Hillary innocent.... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. but that isn't what you are charging in your OP and subsequent posts, is it? |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I do not know of "several" other ones, furthermore |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:29 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Not to mention he owned up that it WAS his responsibility |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. You just said Obama's staff doesn't attack without his knowledge,then you quote Obama saying... |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. That wasn't an attack. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. it was an attack that backfired. Sorry, you don't define the terms |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. If it was an attack it was the stuidest one in history. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. stupid is as stupid does. And you say Obama knew about it |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. and that means they didn't happen? LOL |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. So when did Obama's staff imply Hillary was a murder? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. when has anyone claimed that? |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. When did anyone other then Hillary and her staff claim that Obama sold drugs? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I don't know. So when did anyone make the charge you keep spewing? |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. That Hillary is a murderer? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. no, that someone has said the Obama campaign implied she was a murderer. You've asked it twice |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Well if they haven't done that, we're comparing apples to oranges |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. you've asked it twice: "when did Obama's staff imply Hillary was a murder?" |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Why are you acting so dense? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. second time you've made a pesonal attack in this thread. Is staying on topic that hard for you? |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. That was in no way a personal attack. In fact, it was a compliment. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 05:36 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. actually it iwas. And I know you don't believe anyone has accused the Obama camapaign... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
6. I don't think so..too |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
14. Agreed, including me. K&R. |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
21. No candidate can keep charge of the microscopic stuff |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. But having a high ranking staff member attack an opponent in this matter, in the press.... |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. The drug story is much bigger |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. I believe most people will view the drug attack as scurrilous. |
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proudmoddemo (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. But a candidate should be able to control |
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proudmoddemo (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
22. C. Both |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
42. Gosh, with those two options, how could I not respond to this intellectually honest post? |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. You have a better hypothesis? Why not offer it? |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Yet again, you set the tone for honest debate by namecalling. |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 09:54 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. You've yet to add anything substantive to the conversation.... |
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