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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:47 AM
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Chris Bowers whittles it down to Edwards for the primaries
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2750

I want to also explain why deciding to vote for Edwards, at least now, doesn't mean I'm excited enough to conduct activism on his behalf. The truth is, leaving all of these intellectual, process-of-elimination arguments aside, in my gut I always wanted to support Barack Obama.
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I have written far longer posts about Obama than any other Democratic candidate. I did this because he interests me more than the other candidates, and I was always looking for an intellectual argument that worked for me enough to support him in the primaries. It just didn't happen, however. Over the past four years, I have consistently worked to try and build progressive power, and to stop Democratic tendency to distance itself from the left. As such, in a contested primary where other candidates are either equal or superior on policy, I'm not going to work for the candidate who does more to distance himself from the left than all the other candidates in the field. That conflicts with my sense of pride, my political goals and with simple intellectual consistency. In short, it is a predominantly emotional response that cancels out my predominantly emotional, gut-level excitement for Obama..

And so, without a prevailing gut-level preference, I'm left with intellectual process of elimination. It is enough for me to favor Edwards both in theory and in the voting booth, but it isn't enough for me to spend time conducting activism on his behalf. In order for that to happen, I need my gut and my mind to work in concert. I'm not as excited about Edwards, but I'm not as disturbed by him, either. I know that isn't the most rousing endorsement of a candidate I can muster, but I'm not in the rousing endorsement mood this primary season. Hell, if I was in Iowa, I might even start the evening of January 3rd by caucusing with Richardson, because he did such a great service with the residual force argument and because he was willing to bring bloggers into the decision-making process on that issue (it really felt to me like a huge step forward for blogging when that happened). And then, once the second round of the caucus begins, I'd shift to Edwards whether Richardson was viable or not.

I wish my gut and my mind were working in conjunction this time around, as they did for Howard Dean in 2003-4, but it just never happened. It leaves a profoundly unsatisfying feeling, but after a full year of watching this campaign I don't think that will change now. That is the way it goes sometimes, I guess.

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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:52 AM
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1. I'm far less of a fan of this blogger than I was even in the MyDD days,
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 10:52 AM by swag
especially since he alleged something rather serious against the Obama campaign that he later proved completely unwilling to support with evidence.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:54 AM
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2. And then he says he wanted to support Obama in his gut
What a phony.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:57 AM
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3. What Bowers can't accept is that Obama is not a firebrand who
is going to throw red meat to the base. Nevertheless, Obama fights for those progressive values IN SUBSTANCE if not in style. Too bad Chris is so concerned about the surface instead of things actually getting done. A president should be a president of all people, not just the Dem base. Yes, Obama comes from the progressive side and will pursue those policies; but it doesn't mean he is going to give the finger to people who are from the other side of the aisle. That's what Bowers wants, and yes, Edwards is the best person for that job.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:05 AM
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4. Who?
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:08 AM
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5. Since your question was ambiguous, I'll take the shotgun approach.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:09 AM
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6. Obama: "the candidate who does more to distance himself from the left than all the others"
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:10 AM
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7. Is that like going in General Election mode?
:shrug:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:14 AM
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9. With Obama distancing himself from the left in the primaries, I can't imagine him in GE mode
Perhaps he'll become like one of the guys he models himself after... Ronald Reagan.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:11 AM
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8. Chris Bowers blast from the past
If Amanda and Melissa are terminated from the Edwards campaign, there is no way I could respect either myself or the movement and support Edwards in the primary. His campaign will have contributed to the longstanding goals of the conservative movement and DLC-nexus alike to defund, marginalize, ostricize, and otherwise diminish the influence and credibility of the people-powered netroots and grassroots. Such a move would reinforce every elitist, ignorant, double-standard, disinformation campaign ever run against the netroots and the blogosphere. During a primary election, when Democrats are trying to decide what direction our party will take, I won't be a part of a campaign that decides to run as fast as it can away from the blogosphere, the netroots, and the progressive movement.


Oops.

I guess Chris Bowers's gut changes a lot from day to day. Maybe he should take Metamucil or something?
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