Not 'in my White House' ................

[Alamom]

& a tiny little retraction.

First, I thought it was "our" White House or would be as soon a Democrat is back in office, but a couple of candidates seem to think otherwise. It bothered me last month when I first heard it and it still does. It certainly bothers me to hear a repuke say it as they believe they have always owned it. I don't believe a Democrat should follow this line of thinking even to make a point.
I have only heard these two use this phrase. I could have missed someone else.
Most say, The White House, which I believe is the proper term..

Oh yeah, a little rephrasing on "lobbyist" when called out on it.


http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/699806,CST-NWS-sweet16s1.article

Not 'in my White House'
Obama softens stump speech pledge not to employ lobbyists

December 16, 2007
MASON CITY, Iowa -- White House hopeful Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) was forced to revise a critical stump line of his on Saturday -- a flat declaration that lobbyists "won't work in my White House" after it turned out his own written plan says they could, with some restrictions.

Obama, leading in this kickoff presidential vote state, has put federal lobbyists in his cross hairs as a centerpiece of his campaign.

Running against Washington is a major, populist campaign theme for Obama and rival former Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.), who are locked in a contest with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.). They have blistered Clinton for taking campaign donations from federal lobbyists; Edwards and Obama do not, although Obama did until he started running for president.

On a blitz through northeastern Iowa since Thursday, people continually asked Obama about how he could curb the power of lobbyists and special interests. His simple, compelling, but, it turns out, incomplete answer -- ban them from the White House -- earns him applause.

In Maquoketa on Thursday night Obama said: "I am running to tell the lobbyists in Washington that their days of setting the agenda are over. They have not funded my campaign. They won't work in my White House."

But what Obama has actually proposed is more nuanced and complex and does provide a path for Washington lobbyists to be employed in an Obama White House.

After being challenged on the accuracy of what he has been saying -- in contrast to his written pledge -- at a news conference Saturday in Waterloo, Obama immediately softened what had been his hard line in his next stump speech.

Lobbyists "are not going to dominate my White House," he said during a town hall meeting in Waterloo, revising his stump line minutes after the news conference.


They "will not run my White House," he said in Charles City on Saturday night, hoarse from speaking so much during the day.



http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071128/OPINION01/711280356/1036/Opinion



Sen. Obama (in November)

I've done more to take on lobbyists than any candidate in this race; they haven't funded my campaign, and they won't get a job in my White House.


December 7, 2007
Mormons won't run my White House: Romney.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/07/2112176.htm

I don't listen to repukes, so they all may say it. I happened across this by accident.



edgr

[ccpup]

1. before I clicked on the Post

I thought it was yet another thing * had said. Imagine my surprise -- or maybe not -- when I learned it came out of Obama's inexperienced mouth. "My White House?" Hmmm, I thought it was intended to be "our" White House. Silly me.

Hopefully the Campaign will jump on this and correct it before it turns into something it doesn't need to be.

[Tellurian]

4. Yes, Alamom..thanks- for bringing it to our attention !

Obambi sets my teeth on edge everytime I hear him use the phrase.."his White House!"

[bunnies]

10. How about when Hillary does it?

(snip)

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton promised to reinstate her husband's executive order calling on federal agencies to hire 100,000 people with disabilities in five years.

She also said she would get rid of federal rules that cut benefits for people with disabilities when they get jobs.

"When I am president, my White House will welcome you. Our government will be a partner with you, and new opportunities will be open to you," she said.

(snip)

link: http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071103/NEWS08/311030080/-1/news08

[ccpup]

12. I don't like it when any cadidate

does it. I can see where saying something like that might be an easy trap to fall into, but I hope the respective campaigns alert the candidate and make corrections.

[bunnies]

13. I agree with you.

But Clinton supporters rapping Obama over something she does as well is a bit ridiculous, imho.

[ccpup]

15. If that's an earlier quote from Clinton

and she's not doing it anymore and Obama still is, there could be some validity to the argument. If Clinton and Obama are still doing it and doing so very recently, then, yeah, it's ridiculous.

But with all that needs to be fixed in this country, sniping over the use of the word "my" with the words "White House" is scraping the bottom of the outrage barrel, isn't it? :shrug:

[Alamom]

17. It's from 11/03 and I didn't find it. I said as much in my OP

I could have missed others.....I haven't heard Hillary use this term at all in her speeches and Obama has used it over and over until he was called on it.

One is welcoming the public into the White House with this term and the other has used it over & over in a speech containing a campaign promise that he can not keep and has now changed it.

Read the article.


edgr

[bunnies]

19. The quote is from November. As in last month.

and yes.. again.. I agree.

[Tellurian]

16. Sen Clintons words are inclusive of the people in her statement..

Obama's words are EXclusive and selective as to who is welcome in HIS White House.

Obama is coming from a completely different pov than Hillary. Obama is using the WH as a divisive tool in his agenda.

[bunnies]

20. So, in other words,

Its ok when Hillary does it, but not ok for Obama. Its all a matter of context now?

[Tellurian]

21. Obama is a dilettante.. It's always about him!

read the context and tell me if you see a difference.

[bunnies]

24. When were talking about both of them referring to the White House as 'mine'

No, I dont see a difference. The issue, as I read the OP and most of the thread, was the fact that Obama used the word "my". The context argument didnt even come up until I pointed out that HRC has done the same thing.

If its wrong to say "my White House" as the OP suggests... then its wrong in any context, imho.

[Tellurian]

28. I hear you.. I just don't agree is all.

Absolutism smacks of purism.. in any case it is a platform for Civil Cases..and why consideration is given in our Justice System for cases with similar language not necessarily reflecting similar conclusions.

[Little Star]

2. It is irritating to hear any of them call it THEIR house!

[ccpup]

6. I'm not aware of either

Hillary or Edwards referring to it as "their" House. I've heard them speak about when they're President (as all the Candidates do), but I haven't heard -- at least the few times I tune in -- of them referring to it as "my White House".

[Adelante]

3. How trivial can it get around here?

Mine as opposed to one of my opponents' :shrug:

[cali]

7. I don't know. Hard to imagine anything more trivial than this

except there's been so much like it, and there will be so much more.

[Tom Rinaldo]

29. Yes, this is really stupid

This is a very normal phrase to use, as in "the Clinton White House" and "the Bush White House". It is political slang for a Presidential Administration - that's all. He's just saying "in my administration" for crying out loud.

The same stupidity applies for how a simple phrase used by Clinton or Edwards or Biden or anyone else gets turned into a political inquisition around here. Peple spin worse around here than in a post debate newsroom - with all sides well represented.

[Evergreen Emerald]

5. sounds like the thinks he is inevitable!

where are the masses contesting this issue?

[ccpup]

8. no, no, no

you've got it wrong. Having the sense that becoming President is inevitable is only punishable if you're Hillary Clinton. If you're Obama (or Edwards), it's okay and actually seen as a sign of strength and brilliance. Extra points -- I guess -- if you refer to the White House as "my White House". But fifty more lashes with a cane if you're Hillary and say something like that.

Check your DU Rule Book, Section A, subsections 1 and 2, paragraphs 3 through 17 if you find yourself confused.

[Evergreen Emerald]

9. LOL...a rule book would be nice!

[bunnies]

11. First of all... this is nitpicking to the absolute max...

and second of all... Hillary does it too.

[Alamom]

14. Exposing something he says will be done and can't be done is nit picking?

I don't think so.


He was getting a lot of traction from a promise that he can't keep and he's now changed the wording.
(after he's used it for a couple of months)



His simple, compelling, but, it turns out, incomplete answer -- ban them from the White House -- earns him applause.


edta

[bunnies]

18. Come on.

the point of your post was to rap him for using the word "my". Thats pretty obvious.

[Tellurian]

22. And the purpose of your post is to defend the indefensible, right?

[bunnies]

23. Im not defending anything.

As Ive said.. neither of them should say it. But if one candidate is called out on it, then all should be.

[Tellurian]

25. If you look at the intent of both messages..

I can't honestly classify Sen Clinton's quote in the same category as Sen Obama. Call it nitpicking if you will but the intentional use of words and in their context are very important to me. Sorry, that is just the way I am.

If Sen Clinton had used "my house" with the same intent and in the same context as Obama, I would castigate her for it as well. She didn't.

[MonkeyFunk]

26. What an odd complaint

we refer to the "Bush Whitehouse" or the "Clinton Whitehouse". Why shouldn't the candidates themselves do it? And the personal possessive pronoun is "my".

[ripple]

27. This is a common figure of speech

And it's a term that has been used by campaigns both past and present. As has been pointed out elsewhere in this thread, Hillary has used it, as well.

Hell, I and a lot of other folks have even used similar language to describe the Bush regime. As in "The Bush White House is disgustingly corrupt" or something similar. Do I actually believe that the WH literally belongs to Bush? Of course not.