Obama to Hillary: "Bill Clinton's advisers prefer me."

[Bluebear]

WASHINGTON, Iowa (AP) — Barack Obama said Friday that even if Democratic rival Hillary Rodham Clinton doesn't think he has the right foreign policy credentials to be president, many of her husband's former advisers do and are supporting him instead of her.

"In fact, you could argue that there are more foreign policy experts from the Clinton administration supporting me than Senator Clinton," Obama said. He added that "should raise some pretty interesting questions."

"Why is the national security adviser of Bill Clinton, the secretary of the Navy of Bill Clinton, the assistant secretary of state for Bill Clinton, why are all these people endorsing me?" he said. "And it's not just because I give a good speech. They apparently believe that my vision of foreign policy is better suited for the 21st century and is not caught up in the politics of fear that we've been seeing out of George Bush for the last seven years."

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hO4FRBY0hY3HuUy6IH3kKGCZA_WgD8TM6M500

[calteacherguy]

1. Good move by Obama to point this out.

:thumbsup:

[durrrty libby]

5. Yeah..Using Clinton advisors really hammers home the "Change" meme

and I'm so not like those 90's people... Whats their names? :eyes:

:rofl:

[ElizabethDC]

9. :) n/t

[ClarkUSA]

21. Um, the "Change" meme... as in Hillary being "a change agent"???

:rofl:

[ClarkUSA]

Actually it does, since these are Clinton advisors who think Hillary is WRONG on foreign policy.

Nice to see some people are able to admit that, even if you aren't.

[durrrty libby]

29. Nice try at spin. Poor BO is too afraid to go get "new" "change agents"

He would rater consult the system he rails against and call it new.
What a phoney

[ClarkUSA]

30. It happens to be the truth. Poor Hillary has Bill trying to co-opt Obama's message.

And how's that Likeability Tour going? No one likes your girl, do they? :rofl:

[durrrty libby]

35. Laugh....Clown.....Laugh

[ClarkUSA]

40. lol! That "Likeability Tour" is Hillaryous alright... it's like a skit from The Daily Show!

Boo hoo -- Iowans don't like your girl! :rofl:

[annie1]

38. how do you know what they think? they coulda just had no job at the time.

[indimuse]

46. HOW MUCH "PAC" $$$ DID YOU GIVE???

YOU ARE TRIPPIN AGAIN...BHCO.

[niceypoo]

42. Does this mean that Obama wants to be Clinton like?

[Catherine Vincent]

2. Don't get cocky, Obama.

It doesn't become you.

[jenmito]

3. He's just stating the facts-just like Hillary is doing.

[ElizabethDC]

8. No, he isn't. There's no evidence to back up Obama's assertions.

UPDATE: The Obama campaign doesn't have any clear evidence for his tentative claim, but does send over a New York Times Magazine piece in which an unnamed foreign policy insider suggests that most Democratic foreign policy hands back Obama.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1207/Obama_More_Clinton_foreign_policy_aides_than_Clinton.html


Just sayin'.

[jenmito]

24. Like the article said, they're unnamed sources.

Thanks for backing up the article/claim.

[ElizabethDC]

26. Like the article said, "the Obama campaign doesn't have any clear evidence"

so how was I backing up its claim? They cited an allusion from an unnamed source, nothing concrete.

Also, check this link. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071222/ap_po/obama_experience

[indimuse]

48. OBAMAROMNEY INFLATION AT IT'S BEST!

WHAT A LIER! HE'S STARTING TO REALLY PISS ME OFF!

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1207/Obama_More_...

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1207/Obama_More_...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Funding_Accountability_and_Transparency_Act_of_2006

http://attacktimeline.com/
http://attacktimeline.com/
http://attacktimeline.com/
http://attacktimeline.com/
http://attacktimeline.com/

[babylonsister]

10. He has to call them as he sees them. I don't think that's unbecoming. nt

[durrrty libby]

22. No, It's not "unbecoming" to use advisors of the people you

are running against. It is indeed a compliment and so hypocritical

that he is too inexperienced to see the delish irony

[jenmito]

27. But it's becoming for the spouse of a Dem. candidate to claim the father of the last president

would travel around the world with him to clean up his son's mess? :rofl:

[babylonsister]

33. You are full of poop. Those advisors savor Obama more than Clinton.

Obama isn't 'making' them pick a side. The advisors know who will win and why. That's irony!

[cali]

44. Actually, no. Of course they don't know who will win.

Why do people keep making these kinds of claims? Crystal balls they do not have, and neither do DUers. Why not just leave it at Obama has an excellent foreign policy team? He does. It's impressive. I'd take Anthony Lake and Samantha Power in a dem administration is a heartbeat.

[Mojorabbit]

41. I thought they were her husband's advisors

not hers so your point would not be correct unless you consider them as a team.

[BenDavid]

4. HRC campaign 80 former foreign policy advisers- --47 Obama-

[calteacherguy]

6. How many of those are "experts"

The word is subject to interpretation.

I find it impressive Obama has 47, regardless.

[BenDavid]

39. well for one there is Bill, then Albright, ,Dalton,Feinstein

Indyk,Kerrick,West,Clark,Holbrooke..just to name a few.

Yes 47 is impressive but these are mostly second tier former members in the clinton administration. If you notice the top ones are with HRC and I suspect in both campaigns all are maybe wanting a position in their cabinet....

I will stay with HRC and her advisors......

[cali]

45. bzzzt. Anthony Lake is hardly second tier, and Samantha Power

is impressive indeed. And it's not a numbers game. Personally, I prefer Lake to Albright.

[babylonsister]

14. Link?

But who cares, right? :eyes: Your 'love' for HRC is clouding your judgment imo, but have at it.

[ElizabethDC]

16. Here ya go

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071222/ap_po/obama_experience

And it doesn't seem to me that Ben David was passing any judgment, just stating the facts.

[babylonsister]

32. Thanks for finding that.

And FWIW, Ben David always passes judgment, always pro-Clinton. It's okay as far as it goes until he starts attacking for no real reason.
There are some angry people on here. Go figure.

And may the best person be our next president!

[ElizabethDC]

34. Speaking of passing judgment

Aren't you always pro-Obama. I mean, it's what we do here. Being in favor of a candidate tends to make one supportive of that candidate, wouldn't you agree.

From what I can see, BenDavid was just citing some facts there, so what were you saying about attacking for no real reason?

[Catherine Vincent]

7. Speaking of Gobama...

Has "Katzenkavalier" been posting lately? Haven't seen his cheery posts lately. Does he have a life unlike some of us? :)

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

11. He's sunning in Puerto Rico... lucky him!

[Catherine Vincent]

17. Why that lucky dawg!

Thanks.

[ncabot22]

12. He's on holiday

I think he'll be back after the new year.

[ElizabethDC]

13. He posted a couple of days ago that he's going to be gone for a few days

I think until the 27th. He's visiting his family in Puerto Rico.

[babylonsister]

15. Hmm. And I thought 'he' was a 'she'. No disrespect, and I never

thought to check it out.

[Catherine Vincent]

19. Yeah, he's a guy.

And he's young and cute. :)

[durrrty libby]

25. He posted his picture a couple of times. I guess you missed it

Don't worry about the gender thing. Some people are just not very good in that guessing dept.

You called me a "dad" the other night:P

[babylonsister]

31. Ha! I did, didn't I.

I figured you were such an, no scratch that, a strident voice, and because you've disabled whatever the hell you are, I assumed the absolute worst.
Damn, now I wish I could have a name that doesn't identify who I am, cause I remember the durrty days.
And I remember a friend by the name of Libby, who was a hoot and a holler. We had fun, when I was about 16 years old, and got in lots of trouble, but so worth it!

[durrrty libby]

37. Profiles are silly. One can be whatever they want to be, can't they?

Happy Holidays to you and yours:toast: :party: :hi:

[desi]

18. Just downthread...

On this page...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3875442

Obama claims more former Clinton foreign policy advisor support than Hillary - gets busted by the AP

WASHINGTON, Iowa - Barack Obama suggested Friday that he has more foreign policy experts from the Clinton administration backing his candidacy over Hillary Rodham Clinton's, but lists provided by both campaigns show hers is nearly twice as long.

Clinton's campaign provided more than 80 names of her husband's former foreign policy advisers who are publicly backing her, while Obama's campaign provided 47.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

20. Politicians are egomaniacal by nature, but Barack takes the prize

[calteacherguy]

23. I think you take the prize for hyperbole. nt

[durrrty libby]

28. Tripe

[Jim Sagle]

36. So they prefer an empty suit to an empty pantsuit. Big whoop.

[Alamom]

43. Obama busted by AP on false claim about advisors.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3875442&mesg_id=3875442





http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071222/ap_po/obama_experience

[Perry Logan]

47. It's hard to understand Obama when he has BOTH feet in his mouth.