Desperate Clinton: "We don't vote for advisers"

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

I added the word "desperate" to the headline as a public service to save time. Also, notice the gutter politics practiced by the AP by using her middle name in the article.

Clinton: Lists of Advisers Don't Make a Great President

PHILIP ELLIOTT
AP News
Dec 22, 2007 16:24 EST

Hillary Rodham Clinton said Saturday that even if rival Barack Obama's claim that he has more support from her husband's administration was true, the statement was "silly" because voters look at qualifications, not a candidate's brain trust.

"This is not a campaign between lists of advisers," Clinton told reporters in a packed diner. "This is a campaign between real people with experience and qualifications to become president on day one."

In Iowa on Friday, Obama suggested he had the support of more Clinton administration figures than the former first lady. Lists provided by both campaigns quickly showed hers is almost twice as large.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/mochila.php?articleId=11177584&channelId=76&buyerId=talkingpointsmemo_com400732&buid=866

[saracat]

1. Would that be because of the scum she has advising her, like Penn and Sasso?

[cali]

3. lol

there's something comforting about your predictability. You're so embittered about Clinton, you remind me of a spurned lover. It's fun to watch. Keep up the stellar work :thumbsup:

:rofl:

[saracat]

6. Hey, I an consistent.I notice you coudnt be bothered to stand up for Edwards

im the Gump thread yet always rush to defemd even the advisers of Hillary.Why is that Cali? Just womdering since you always say you are even handed.

[cali]

12. Actually, dahling, I do stand up for Edwards if I see an

egregiously bullshit attack. I did today.Unlike you and your vituperative and seemingly bottomless attacks on Clinton. Here ya go, peaches:

"I'm not, as anyone here will tell you, a JE supporter, but
your post is bull. He doesn't own a mortgage company. He did have a lot of money invested in a hedge fund that had money in a sub-prime loan organization, and they did foreclose on homes in NOLA after Katrina. He's denied having known that. And furthermore, there's historical precedent for politicians of wealth standing up for the poor and middle class."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3876624&mesg_id=3877183

[sniffa]

14. peaches? dahling?

your condescension is immense. :thumbsup:

[cali]

16. It's called snark, thumbsy

something you know a lot about. As I said last night, you're the last person to comment.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[sniffa]

17. oh right

thanks for the reminder, cake. :thumbsup:

[cali]

19. you're welcome

sweetums.

xxxx

:thumbsup:

[sniffa]

20. you're the best, bagel

:thumbsup:

[Forkboy]

22. That's our cali!

"Cupcake", "honey", "peaches". She thinks she's being clever and witty but in reality it's just making folks hungry. :)

[sniffa]

26. i wish more foods were used

like apple, steak, eggs, pancakes, brownie, and pistachio.

[Forkboy]

31. I'm hoping to be called a souffle before the night is out.

:)

[cali]

34. sorry, I can't oblige,

butter pecan.

[cali]

33. oooh, I like it.

thanks, pistachio.

:thumbsup:

[sniffa]

36. no problem grape nuts

:thumbsup:

[cali]

38. phtoooey,

harissa.

[sniffa]

39. sounds good, pork tenderloin

:thumbsup:

[cali]

30. I made a fantastic curried

lentil soup and pakoras. Just to make you even hungrier.

And no, I'm not trying to be witty. I'm trying to use substitutes for words that aren't allowed.

[oasis]

23. Presidential candidate, John Edwards foreclosed on the homes of Katrina victims?

:wow:

[saracat]

27. Thank you.I didn't see this.That was great Cali! I apologize.

[cali]

37. Glad to do it saracat. I don't like that shit

whichever candidate it's about. I wish you'd just stick to supporting Edwards. You do a great job. Loved the Reid blog you posted today. I like your Edwards posts, and I wouldn't come on them accept to say something positive.

[sniffa]

7. .

:eyes:

[jenmito]

2. Is she joking??? Without her main adviser, BILL, she wouldn't even be in the race...

and if she was, she'd be at the bottom of the pack. :eyes:

[cali]

4. antother predictable one and

so much like the other, albeit from another camp.

this just keeps getting better.

:rofl:

[sniffa]

8. .

:eyes:

[jenmito]

9. Care to explain what you're talking about?

[Cha]

32. hillary is a big tragic

joke hoisted on the People by the dlc.

[Perry Logan]

5. Snarky, aren't we?

[saracat]

10. Odd, none of the over the top anti Edwards postimgs have bothered any of you at all.Yet snark about

Hillary's advisers is offensive?????

[BootinUp]

15. The Gump thread was ridiculous

almost too ridiculous to even bother with a reply.

[cali]

18. odd, you haven't responded to my proof that an over the top

anti-Edwards posting, did bother me, and I did call bullshit on it. And it's not the first time. You on the other hand, have thrown out one vile over the top piece of crap after another about Clinton.

[saracat]

35. I just did! See above! I apologize Cali! But I deny I post crap about Clinton.

I post both facts and opinion as I see then. I do not support Clinton and have many times stated why. I didn't even dislike her till this campaign got umder way. Mow I do.And I have actually defemded Climtom when I thought something was BS.But no one ever remebers that.I no longer care.

[DURHAM D]

11. I thought we had all sorts of proof on the board here yesterday

that Obama's statement was actually not true.

[TwilightZone]

13. Just to be clear, her middle name is Diane.

As far as using HRC, she does that on her Senate website: http://clinton.senate.gov/

Your point about "desperate" is both amusing and accurate.

[glowing]

25. In my family.. when the women get married they either keep their

middle names or change their middle name to their maiden name.. My grandmother did this and my aunt did this.. My mother and I choose not too... I don't know why for my mother.. for me, I have a very masculine first name.. the middle is feminine.. helps assort the mail correctly. I'm not sure what my sister will choose.. her name is boderline as well, but I think more women have her name.. my father has no sons.. so she may choose to change her middle name to her maiden name... Did Clinton do this? Or did she Hiphenate? and who gives a shit.. its a fucking name.

[TwilightZone]

28. Wikipedia lists all four names, but I can't vouch for its veracity.

I seem to recall seeing her listed somewhere else as "Hillary Diane Clinton", but I don't remember where that was. I have no idea if she legally changed her middle name to "Rodham" or not.

[ElizabethDC]

42. She didn't hyphenate her name, she just moved the Rodham to the middle

I don't know the legal status of Diane, though - she may have dropped it (as you state, that's a common practice), or she may be Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton.

[glowing]

45. Normally you do it on your marriage cert and with ss card.. those

are the 2 official places I know you can change your name.. the ss is most important to receive bennies.. but usually what's on the ss and marriag cert. is what the name that is on everything...

[glowing]

21. I thought she was using her middle name again.. Isn't that what she did

as Senator? And I do think its important to see who every candidate would like to pack into the room and that they would listen to... A president doesn't have time to dilly into each little detail.. More obvious in this monkeys admin... but advisors and cabinet members hold a ear and an advisement to the pres. They are acting as the most informed person on the issue in the room and are expected advise on those issues.. Is there no wonder asshat in chief doesn't know his head from his ass... I think they have held hostage all the remotes in the WhiteHouse and have an endless rotation of The Three Stooges playing for his eyes only.. I don't even think he knows how bad his presidency has been...

I wonder how good Pres. Clinton's advisors were.. are they good.. and should Obama even want them... Hope for Change with the old Clinton admin... that's not a new direction that's just turning another page of the same book.. new chapter.

[ClarkUSA]

24. Actually, having good advisors helps a man of fine judgment be a great president

Abraham Lincoln thought so. And no one thinks Bill Clinton devised his economic policies all by himself, do they?

However, being a First Lady doesn't make you qualified to be a great president. :-)

[Cha]

29. Riiight, hillary...get that out there

cause you got nothing else.

[BenDavid]

40. HRC is correct. The media did the same with bush as they are

doing with Obama saying he does not have to be the smartest person in the room becasue he is surrounded by advisors. Hell, it would be a good idea if we did have someone that was the smartest person in the room. HRC's aptitude trumps Obama in so many ways that as she said, be president from day one.

Obama the more he discusses policy is so lacking. We do not need on the job training with obama. we have had that now for 7 years and look where we are.

Ben David

[journalist3072]

41. How nice of you to try to think for the rest of DU

But just in case you didn't get the memo, some of us can think for ourselves. In other words, we don't need you to add words to headlines.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

43. Thanks for the graceless, self-important post!!!

And how awfully nice of you to speak for the rest of DU!

Yes, like everything else in the world, it's all about YOU.

[sniffa]

44. heh heh heh

[Forkboy]

46. So when does said thinking start?

[journalist3072]

48. The minute that YOU start to grow a brain.

[Forkboy]

49. LOL

:thumbsup:

That's what I get for lobbing softballs.

[K Gardner]

47. She made the comment about Advisors and THEN released HER list of advisors? LOL

Priceless.