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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 05:53 PM
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Question about independent candidates
Several DUers have stated that if any candidate does not get his/her party's nomination, they are prohibited in many states from then running in the general as an independent.

Is this true? Where can I find this? I Googled but didn't find anything.

Thanks.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 06:11 PM
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1. I've never heard that...
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 06:14 PM
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2. Nah... that wouldn't even be legal.
You can't disqualify yourself from running for office just because you competed in the primary of a party. Essentially, the party would be stripping you of your civil right to seek the office, and they can't do that.

(Just ask Joe Lieberman!)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 06:46 PM
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4. That's what I thought
but several DUers - in the multiple Ron Paul threads - have said it is against the law in several states for him to run as an independent.

So I guess they were just talking out of their asses. LOL No surprise.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 07:56 PM
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12. Well, there have been legal challenges. LaRouche won a case vs. Ohio, causing them to amend
their law to specifically apply to Presidential candidates. There's very little precedent for challenges, though.
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 06:15 PM
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3. election laws vary from state to state
one would need to look at the laws in each state as the US Constitution gives the states wide latitude in this area.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 06:48 PM
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5. I think so, because Perot had to form a party when he ran.
The Reform party, was it?
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 06:49 PM
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6. Some states that have open primaries, do not allow a second bite at the apple in an election cycle.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 06:57 PM
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7. Not that I don't believe you but do you have a link?
Edited on Mon Dec-24-07 06:57 PM by proud2Blib
The Ron Paul groupies have invaded one of my email groups and I would LOVE to shut them down with this little factoid. Thanks :hi:
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 07:04 PM
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8. Just the library in the back of my head. n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 07:39 PM
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9. LOL Thanks for checking!!
Now close that door or your brain will get cold. :hi:
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 07:49 PM
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10. You think I'm lying and so I should do your google research. n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:01 PM
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13. No I don't think you are lying
I was making a joke. Sorry if you misunderstood.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:08 PM
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15. Sorry I misunderstood your reply. My brain predates google or transistors. n/t
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 07:54 PM
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11. Four states have sore-loser laws: SD, MI, OH, TX
(Your problem was probably that you didn't remember the exact terminology.)

http://www.ballot-access.org/2007/01/12/sore-loser-laws-dont-generally-apply-to-presidential-candidates/
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:06 PM
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14. Oh how sweet of you - thanks
Even if this is only 4 states, can ANY candidate win without Ohio - and Texas??

Doesn't seem like it.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:08 PM
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16. For a Republican especially, those are killers.
SD's 3 are kinda pointless, and MI is probably going to break Dem again anyway, but without Texas' 34 votes (2nd-highest) and OH's 20, Paul would have a long way to go.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:27 PM
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17. The RP groupies on my email list said yesterday:
"We are going to carry Ron Paul on our shoulders into the White House"

They honestly believe nothing will stop him from taking the presidency.

So I will ask them how he can win without 54 electoral votes. Thanks again for the link!
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